Wright blames fans... and so it begins

MetalFoldingChair

GateFans Noob
That's quite a zinger you got but thru there MetalFoldingChair. :shepsalute: Seems new names go to moderation. Look for the manure spreader a bit later on. :icon_e_wink:

This James Rundle person is such an obvious shill that I had to call him out on it. I probably would have let it slide had he not claimed to be a "journalist" whose piece has sparked "debate". I mean really, how stupid does he think we are? You can almost see Brad Wright's hand going up Rundle's back as the bias is that obvious.

"Journalist" who elicits "debate"? What a tool! :rotflmao:
 
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Robbie_Rocket_Pants

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If what you say is the case (as it is feasible) then that implies that TPTB PERCEIVED THEMSELVE'S AS STARGATE! That is quite worrying - the self perception as the alpha & the omega.
 

MetalFoldingChair

GateFans Noob
By the way there is also a thread on the Syfy forum about this:

http://forums.syfy.com/index.php?showtopic=2351785

Squall, the moderator, put out a warning:

So if you want to comment there, you have to be nice. It would be a shame, if the thread would get deleted. ;)

So what's the point of having a thread where you can't call out BW for his idiocy? It's not an "attack" if one logically addresses points where BW is horribly wrong and/or downright insulting to fans. I don't get it, is it supposed to be a "luv fest" type of thread? No wonder the SyFy forums are such a ghost town. No thanks, I'll pass.
 
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Robbie_Rocket_Pants

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The relationship between TPTB & the fanbase is not merely implicit, it is damned obvious! Between the writers/producers & the fans, there is & always has been a convenant so-to-speak, & both sides play a part - the writers & producers write & produce the show........ the fans watch, enjoy & watch again!

This simple premise has been the fundamental foundation of television production for as long as television has existed as a medium of entertainment & even longer going back to the days of Shakespeare's stage shows.

This convenant is based on, not only what came before (what is expected by the fans), but what is to come (what is promised). The promises of which I speak not only relate to the bait-&-switch tactics employed by TPTB but also by the very ill-conceived, knee-jerk statements of opinion & intention they articulate in public on such places as the internet:
- "If we make a good show, people will watch it. If we don't, they won't"

- “Please watch my show. … I mean, ‘I’m loving the show. I downloaded it,’ … that does not keep us on the air. Viewers have to watch our show live on the same day, otherwise our television show is going to go away”

- "I don’t think if we for any reason go away, it is an issue necessarily of the quality of the product that we’ve been making,” said executive producer and co-creator Brad Wright. “I think getting moved on the schedule has hurt us. And the fact that some of the fans that liked SG-1 and Atlantis were so angry that they have deliberately hurt us, which is unfortunate.”
(linked in with this quote is also the other statement he made about us not being enough of & force in numbers to affect SGU's ratings) - if somebody could find that quote I would be much appreciative. :D

& who can forget the most recent addition:

- "
Indeed, log on to any message board, and the vociferous level of criticism directed towards Universe for its supposed role in the demise of Stargate Atlantis is obvious, as is the recent, unpleasant schadenfreude in its ratings descent. Websites have even been set up purely for opposition to the show, which seems like a curious move for people who are supposedly avowed fans of the franchise. Simplistic descriptors such as Stargate In Name Only abound, and the feeling of engendered ill wishes can be nauseating".


Fans of any TV show want certain guarantees from the producers in the forms of promises or at the very least, an attempt at a promise. To ensure the fans' trust in a promise/the promiser, fans tend to look for little things like consistency from one comment to the next because, if there is one thing that makes a promise/guarantee appear sincere, it is that it came from the mouth of a person who can, not only make up one's mind, but also can remain consistent from one minute to the next............. BW literally gave it about 48 hours before going from begging to blaming (that has to be like........ a record or something).

By back tracking on his previous comments (some made not so long ago) he is showing his cowardice, hypocrisy, inconsistency & total lack of integrity in reneging on his end of the covenant.
 

Exile

GateFans Noob
A good post, and good to see all the quotes gathered in one place, to show how his attitude has been changing. Only in the very first quote, made before the series aired ( I think ) does he show any sign of taking responsibility for his work. And that only because he was assuming that the reaction was going to be positive.
 

PegDIG2004

GateFans Noob
A good post, and good to see all the quotes gathered in one place, to show how his attitude has been changing. Only in the very first quote, made before the series aired ( I think ) does he show any sign of taking responsibility for his work. And that only because he was assuming that the reaction was going to be positive.


It seriously boggles the mind that they could think there would be positive fan reaction to the show.
 
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Robbie_Rocket_Pants

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A good post, and good to see all the quotes gathered in one place, to show how his attitude has been changing. Only in the very first quote, made before the series aired ( I think ) does he show any sign of taking responsibility for his work. And that only because he was assuming that the reaction was going to be positive.

Yeah although there are a few other quotes I would like to put in there but can't find. I would like to stress again, my desire to find that quote he made about us "not being enough of & force in numbers to affect SGU's ratings" (not the exact wording of the quote, just a paraphrasing).
 

Pharos

GateFans Noob
So the author posted a reply, essentially saying: "It's amazing how fast comments appeared, It's nice that this article sparked some debate."

Debate? That usually implies there are two opposite sides arguing with each other... from what I read in the comments, we're all on the same side here.
 

Exile

GateFans Noob
It seriously boggles the mind that they could think there would be positive fan reaction to the show.

Well, they thought they'd managed to destill the essence of greatness from "Battlestar Galactica", "LOST", and several other critically acclaimed sci-fi/drama-ish series, and successfully combined them into SGU. They overestimated themselves seriously. People do that. But there's no excuse for the arrogance and the bashing of the fanbase.
 

johnsheppard

GateFans Noob
Yeah although there are a few other quotes I would like to put in there but can't find. I would like to stress again, my desire to find that quote he made about us "not being enough of & force in numbers to affect SGU's ratings" (not the exact wording of the quote, just a paraphrasing).
This one maybe
Q: “Were you surprised by the reaction of fans to the announcement of the cancellation of SGA and the start-up of SGU?”
BW: No. You guys are actually pretty predictable (take no offense, most fan groups are). Unfortunately, you represent a very small portion of the actual viewing audience we need for financial success.
 

Rac80

The Belle of the Ball
couldn't resist!

I posted this on syfy:
I just want to state for the record that I, Rac80, am solely responsible for millions of people NOT tuning into sgu due to my AWESUM mind powers
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! I also am constantly concoting "controversies" to make TPTB of SGU look bad.
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I admit it is my life's goal to MAKE Wright and Mallozzi say things that make them look petty and ignorant as they rail against the unfairness of their lives.
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thus far it all seems to be working well. My evil designs are all coming to pass....
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next I will create chocolate that is totally delish and will BURN calories- not add them!
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Rac80

The Belle of the Ball
You'll have to let us know the response you get, dear Rac80. ;)


I will, it wasn't rude or dissing TPTB, just admitting what we all know is the thruth...I AM ALL POWERFUL! :P
 

Rac80

The Belle of the Ball
Ooh Rac80, loving your awesome post. ;)

TY TY *bows humbly* I thought I should take credit since BW is sooooo willing that anyone but him should! ;)
 

Nani

GateFans Noob
I posted this on syfy:
I just want to state for the record that I, Rac80, am solely responsible for millions of people NOT tuning into sgu due to my AWESUM mind powers
hypnotize.gif
! I also am constantly concoting "controversies" to make TPTB of SGU look bad.
smhalloween2.gif
I admit it is my life's goal to MAKE Wright and Mallozzi say things that make them look petty and ignorant as they rail against the unfairness of their lives.
smsmileys33.gif
thus far it all seems to be working well. My evil designs are all coming to pass....
293921.gif




next I will create chocolate that is totally delish and will BURN calories- not add them!
smsmileys5.gif

Rac80, you're an awesome villainess & my heroine! (especially the chocolate part!)

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Nani

GateFans Noob
Okay, Nani...every time I see your name, I can't help but think of the Japanese word "nani?", which basically means "What?"

It's a short version of my full internet handle NaniWahine, which in Hawaiian means "beautiful woman" or in a wider sense "The Beauty of Women" - the friendship and camraderie between women. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204186834 It was created for Jason Momoa's official fan forum & was a tribute to his heritage. I've used this name for ages.
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
Way back in 2002, Brad Wright quipped that Emmerich and Devlin would never get Stargate back.

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Stargate

After Bill McCay had written a series of five novels continuing the story the original creators had envisioned, and despite the success of the Stargate television series, Dean Devlin stated in 2006 that "he has struck a production deal with MGM and is developing the long-delayed sequel feature films that will pick up the story from the 1994 original" [12] According to Devlin, two movie sequels would have picked up the story from the 1994 original, but not the mythology of the SG-1 and Atlantis series, with the original stars Kurt Russell and James Spader. Devlin regretted giving MGM control over the franchise. [12] The first movie already tapped into Egyptian mythology; the second one would have moved into other mythologies; and the third would tie all the mythologies together. [13] Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis producer Brad Wright said in 2002 that "Devlin can wish to do a sequel to Stargate all he wants. MGM owns the rights, and I doubt very much that they'll ask him to do it. He knows better." [14]


Plans for producing two sequels of the original film were announced by the original film's creator Dean Devlin at the 2006 San Diego Comic-Con. He has said he is currently in talks with MGM to produce four films and he would like two of them to be the final two films in his envisioned Stargate trilogy. In an interview with Sci Fi Wire, Devlin says that should the sequels be made, he hopes to enlist Kurt Russell and James Spader in the two sequels. Both Russell and Spader have expressed interest, Devlin revealed. "They've always said they wanted to do it. The irony is actually because it was 12 years ago that we made Stargate, [and] part two was actually supposed to take place about 12 years later. We were just going to kind of age them up as actors. So it actually works out really nicely." These sequels would bypass the 12 years of mythology created by SG-1 and Atlantis if they are produced. [12]

In the meantime, Lionsgate remains the major rights holder to the original film; this was due to the fact that its predecessor, Live Entertainment, owned home video rights to the Carolco Pictures library and had also owned international distribution rights, although Carolco itself was on the brink of bankruptcy when they produced this film.
My how times have changed. MGM may ask him to do the films after all, since Brad became an arrogant idiot and derailed MGM's successful Stargate franchise because he was out of ideas and bored. What an arrogant, self-absorbed moron!
 

Illiterati

Council Member & Author
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Stargate



My how times have changed. MGM may ask him to do the films after all, since Brad became an arrogant idiot and derailed MGM's successful Stargate franchise because he was out of ideas and bored. What an arrogant, self-absorbed moron!
Considering that Idiotboy made his snotty remark in 2002, and Devlin was speaking at the San Diego ComicCon in 2006 about talks with MGM about more Stargate movies, obviously Idiotboy was wrong.
 
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