Wright blames fans... and so it begins

Illiterati

Council Member & Author
Considering SG1 were about 1 season away from being revealed as the actual Arthur and his Knights, I'd say that's certain. Except with SGU, instead of de-mystersing the Arthurian legends with fuck up Ancients and technology, they'll add even more faux theolog-idiocy to make it deep and meaningful ya'll just like they're doing with this stupid message thing. We'll have the "Destiny" avatar next like "Rommie".
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MetalFoldingChair

GateFans Noob
I think the issue with Robert Carlyle is that unlike Joe Flanigan, he never really got to work with a good director aside from that one episode he directed. Joe got to work with Martin Wood and one guy whose name escapes me but was always calling everyone "Chief" or something like that, basically people who were really passionate about their work. I don't get that same feeling from the directing choices in SGU and I think Carlyle is struggling to deal not only with that, but with material that must be really annoying the shit out of him in its repetitiveness. And its not just Carlyle that has problems with the directing, it's practically everyone on the show. Louis Ferreria is so bland and monotone in every episode aside from the dream parts of Cloverdale that its easier to imagine LDP as Young than Ferreria, Eli being an over the top annoyance, and a ton of other problems have just as much to do with the directing as the writing.

I agree completely regarding Ferreria. LDP would have been wayyyyyyy better in that role. Ferreria does nothing for me as a viewer, just nothing. In fact, he comes across as developmentally disabled. As commanders go he's definitely "special needs", that's for sure.
 

Illiterati

Council Member & Author
I agree completely regarding Ferreria. LDP would have been wayyyyyyy better in that role. Ferreria does nothing for me as a viewer, just nothing. In fact, he comes across as developmentally disabled. As commanders go he's definitely "special needs", that's for sure.
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Fizz

GateFans Noob
I agree completely regarding Ferreria. LDP would have been wayyyyyyy better in that role. Ferreria does nothing for me as a viewer, just nothing. In fact, he comes across as developmentally disabled. As commanders go he's definitely "special needs", that's for sure.

Funny thing is, when the show was being developed and the casting sides were leaked, I saw LDP beign bandied about as a good Young by quite a few people, and then it was announced we would be on the show as Telford. I think he'd have made a good Young, though I don't really mind Ferriera as an ator, I just think the character is a batshit Colonel would shouldn't even have been promoted past Captain he is so incompetant. Though he isn't really bringing much to the table or overcoming the writing either.

It's possible they tried to get LDP for Young but he didn't want to commit to a regular role, just a few guest spots for a bit of cash.
 

SerenityS

GateFans Member
Funny thing is, when the show was being developed and the casting sides were leaked, I saw LDP beign bandied about as a good Young by quite a few people, and then it was announced we would be on the show as Telford. I think he'd have made a good Young, though I don't really mind Ferriera as an ator, I just think the character is a batshit Colonel would shouldn't even have been promoted past Captain he is so incompetant. Though he isn't really bringing much to the table or overcoming the writing either.

It's possible they tried to get LDP for Young but he didn't want to commit to a regular role, just a few guest spots for a bit of cash.

I think they hired a bunch of actors (other than R Carlyle) who are content going along with the writer/producer's vision of their characters. They don't seem to act beyond that. Unlike the previous two Stargates (particularly Atlantis, where the actors made good with some of the less than quality scripts they were given). TPTB seemed very unhappy with actors who didn't follow orders blindly. This crew seem to be pretty obedient.
 

Fizz

GateFans Noob
I think they hired a bunch of actors (other than R Carlyle) who are content going along with the writer/producer's vision of their characters. They don't seem to act beyond that. Unlike the previous two Stargates (particularly Atlantis, where the actors made good with some of the less than quality scripts they were given). TPTB seemed very unhappy with actors who didn't follow orders blindly. This crew seem to be pretty obedient.

Yeah I do agree they've gone out of their way to hire a bunch of young bland actors who will do what they're told. And unfortunately for everyone it shows up onscreen, because unlike both the previous shows, where both casts were excellent and had crackling chemistry, none of these actors are really rising above the scripts or making their characters interesting. And the writing is even more terrible than on Atlantis because they aren't writing any of the parts they are actually decent at doing, just the "character drama" stuff that they've always "struggled" with to put it politely.
 

alien0

GateFans Noob
And the writing is even more terrible than on Atlantis because they aren't writing any of the parts they are actually decent at doing, just the "character drama" stuff that they've always "struggled" with to put it politely.


EXACTLY!!!!!
 

sgufail

GateFans Noob
Yeah I do agree they've gone out of their way to hire a bunch of young bland actors who will do what they're told.

They are all really bland not just the young actors, I don't think LF is bland as an actor but his character on SGU certainly is.

I'm not a David Blue fan but he is the only one that isn't bland on the show but his acting is still pretty average.
 

Fizz

GateFans Noob
They are all really bland not just the young actors, I don't think LF is bland as an actor but his character on SGU certainly is.

I'm not a David Blue fan but he is the only one that isn't bland on the show but his acting is still pretty average.

I find Eli bland on the show, he's pretty much just "cliche dork loser except Only he can Save Mankind" and DB hasn't really done anything to make him step outside of that for me. I did like him as Cliff on Ugly Betty though, that character was cool, and non cliche. LF seems like a good charming guy from some BTS stuff but Young, bleh.
 

ginogoneforever

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An open letter to Mallozzi & Wright:

I'll cut straight to the chase, since you both were so frank with us, the STARGATE fanbase and science fiction/fantasy fans, in general. SG-U is one of the worst, most depressing, boring sorry-excuse-of-a-GINO-clone shows (which was a bad enough show within its own right) I've ever had the displeasure of sitting through (before turning it off, permanently, after 4-5 excruciating episodes). It needs to die, before it permanently taints the STARGATE name, that was firmly and proudly established by the superior, theatrical movie and to a lesser extent, SG-1 and SG-A.

CLUE: Start writing for the fans, again, instead of the idiot tv snob critics, who never liked science fiction/fantasy in the first place. No one wants to watch this depressing, dark crap, in the midst of the worst recession, this country has seen, since the Great Depression, and our friends and relatives and other innocent civilians are dying in two horrible wars, overseas! We see it in the news, have friends and family over there and are losing or have lost our jobs, etc. We don't need some elitist snobs rubbing the doom & gloom in our faces, while we're attempting to get our minds off these stressful realities, if only just for an hour or two. That's why they call it ESCAPIST entertainment and many people, including intellectuals enjoy getting lost in it for a moment. What part of that do you not understand??

DEATH TO AS THE STARGATE TURNS!! THE FANS HAVE SPOKEN!!
 

Mr. A

Super Moderator +
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I'll cut straight to the chase, since you both were so frank with us,
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

...the STARGATE fanbase and science fiction/fantasy fans, in general. SG-U is one of the worst, most depressing, boring sorry-excuse-of-a-GINO-clone shows (which was a bad enough show within its own right) I've ever had the displeasure of sitting through (before turning it off, permanently, after 4-5 excruciating episodes). It needs to die, before it permanently taints the STARGATE name, that was firmly and proudly established by the superior, theatrical movie and to a lesser extent, SG-1 and SG-A.

CLUE: Start writing for the fans, again, instead of the idiot tv snob critics, who never liked science fiction/fantasy in the first place.
Exactly! :beckettu:
 

Illiterati

Council Member & Author
Ya know, if he could, Wright would blame us for the night the show moved to this season, Nielsen's choice of "families", the Volkswagen Thing and halitosis.

Doesn't mean he's "right", though.
 

g.lewarne

GateFans Noob
I think "Boredom Writer" (aka Brad Wright) suffers from too much grandiose delusion to listen to active criticism.

but for what its worth, the latest episode was just terrible. i feel i may soon wither and die if i watch any more
 

Lilith

GateFans Noob
Welcome but I think RCC is responsible for last night's ep. Just turn the tv to NCIS and everything will be alright.
 

stclare

Moderator & Mckay Super Fan
I think "Boredom Writer" (aka Brad Wright) suffers from too much grandiose delusion to listen to active criticism.

but for what its worth, the latest episode was just terrible. i feel i may soon wither and die if i watch any more

Today's lesson is, don't watch it anymore, esp not live - you cant FF through the crap!

:welcomewagon:
 

g.lewarne

GateFans Noob
Today's lesson is, don't watch it anymore, esp not live - you cant FF through the crap!

:welcomewagon:


thanks for all the welcomes!

the ability to FF through the crap would leave the show about 1 second long
 
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