Man of Angst ( a.k.a. Man of Steel )

[Bluce Ree]

I don't think you can plan for a natural disaster or unplanned attack, I've seen both versions in Superman. I'm hoping this movie doesn't disappoint and launches the DC movie verse.

Dude, they had the technology on hand. Krypton wasn't where Earth is today. Jor El was able to put Superbaby in a crystal ship and send him to Earth. We see the same technology used in that clip to fly back to Krypton. All of Superbum's tech suggests some form of very advanced crystalline technology with morph capability, which means any number of Kryptonians could have tossed a crystal on the ground, turned it into a ship and left.

Whether they had days or years, the technology they had didn't require ample advance notice and endless preparation like we do nor did the disaster sneak up on them 5 minutes before Krypton's destruction.

 

[mzzz]

Dude, they had the technology on hand. Krypton wasn't where Earth is today. Jor El was able to put Superbaby in a crystal ship and send him to Earth. We see the same technology used in that clip to fly back to Krypton. All of Superbum's tech suggests some form of very advanced crystalline technology with morph capability, which means any number of Kryptonians could have tossed a crystal on the ground, turned it into a ship and left.

Whether they had days or years, the technology they had didn't require ample advance notice and endless preparation like we do nor did the disaster sneak up on them 5 minutes before Krypton's destruction.

I don't think their crystal tech works that way, just toss a crystal and have it morph into whatever you want. Krytonians are xenophobic, they stuck to their planet and never really ventured out into space after they became xenophobic so didn't have space tech ready to go. Think, if you watched the cartoons, Jor El tried to warn the heads of the Government there about the planet being unstable (but not that it was about to explode, just that it's unstable), but the council were entrenched in their superiority and could not believe such a thing could happen. So the other Kryptonians never really knew ahead of time such a thing was about to happen because the Council did not deem it a concern. So Jor El prepped some contingency ahead of time as quickly as he could without really knowing what would happen, then the planet started exploding and he had a ship ready to go.

There's other storylines where Kryptonians were bound to the planet genetically somehow because the Guardians or something, I don't know. Jor El found a cure for it and gave it to his son or something.

Another one was that they used to dominate space being extremely militaristic. Then the scientists took over and decided they should become xenophobic in some kind of penance. So they eradicated and banned spatial vehicles. This xenophobia became engrained into their society, so they never really left their planet. Jor El started to experiment with it and began questioning their isolationism and built a prototype. Then planet exploded, etc.

Or you can just chalk it up to comic book universe. You're being kinda over-demanding for something from comic-book universe. Why do you hate Superman so much? You seem fine with Iron Man and some of the others and not as demanding with them....

 

[shavedape]

 

[Bluce Ree]

I don't think their crystal tech works that way, just toss a crystal and have it morph into whatever you want. Krytonians are xenophobic, they stuck to their planet and never really ventured out into space after they became xenophobic so didn't have space tech ready to go. Think, if you watched the cartoons, Jor El tried to warn the heads of the Government there about the planet being unstable (but not that it was about to explode, just that it's unstable), but the council were entrenched in their superiority and could not believe such a thing could happen. So the other Kryptonians never really knew ahead of time such a thing was about to happen because the Council did not deem it a concern. So Jor El prepped some contingency ahead of time as quickly as he could without really knowing what would happen, then the planet started exploding and he had a ship ready to go.

There's other storylines where Kryptonians were bound to the planet genetically somehow because the Guardians or something, I don't know. Jor El found a cure for it and gave it to his son or something.

Another one was that they used to dominate space being extremely militaristic. Then the scientists took over and decided they should become xenophobic in some kind of penance. So they eradicated and banned spatial vehicles. This xenophobia became engrained into their society, so they never really left their planet. Jor El started to experiment with it and began questioning their isolationism and built a prototype. Then planet exploded, etc.

Or you can just chalk it up to comic book universe. You're being kinda over-demanding for something from comic-book universe. Why do you hate Superman so much? You seem fine with Iron Man and some of the others and not as demanding with them....

Not really. They're bringing that universe to the movies and introducing the shit themselves. I'm just calling it out.

Iron Man doesn't breathe in space nor does he have a weakness that only cripples him when the plot suits it. Besides, Iron Man is fictional tech but there's a certain consistency.

Superman is powered by yellow suns but allergic to red suns and crippled by kryptonite but keeps his powers while flying through space even when approaching his star system and landing on his former planet Krypton where the planet is basically made of kryptonite. Kryptonians had no space travel tech except for one intersteller crib that flew a baby across the cosmos to Earth who grew up and tossed a crystal into the snow which grew into a fortress filled with yet more technology that came out of nowhere and now he has a space ship made from the same crystal tech.

All that in two big long run-on sentences.

It's fine when it's all in a comic book or cartoon aimed at kids but adults are a little more demanding.

 

[mzzz]

Jor El prepped that for him, Jor El, one Kryptonian scientist. You can't expect all the other Kryptonians to have handy dandy spacetraveling crystals on hand. At some point, you have to have a suspension of disbelief. I don't think you've read too many comic books, either about Iron Man or Superman, and you're coming at this from the movies, yeah? This new movie is a reboot of Superman, should just wait and see what happens and how they deal with things and what kind of consistency they try to get at, only fair.

 

[Bluce Ree]

Jor El prepped that for him, Jor El, one Kryptonian scientist. You can't expect all the other Kryptonians to have handy dandy spacetraveling crystals on hand.

My point was that NO Kryptonians escaped, not that they all should have. Jor El knew it was coming so he could have used whatever he gave Supercrap to save his own family and some friends.

At some point, you have to have a suspension of disbelief. I don't think you've read too many comic books, either about Iron Man or Superman, and you're coming at this from the movies, yeah? This new movie is a reboot of Superman, should just wait and see what happens and how they deal with things and what kind of consistency they try to get at, only fair.

It's not about suspending disbelief, dude. It's about inconsistent crap and rushed shitty scripts thrown at the screen for the sake of big dollars.

I've not only read tons of comics in my youth but I also had a very substantial collection. I've read everything from Superman to X-Men to Doctor Who to the more obscure publishers like Dark Horse. I read Superman right through to his death, his resurrection and the short period where he wore that stupid black suit after his resurrection (actually, it was a stupid coma and the sun regenerated him). I also watch some of the superhero animated movies on Netflix when I come across good ones, the most recent being Planet Hulk.

I'm fine with this shit in comics and animated movies. They don't translate well to the big screen with real actors and stories aimed at adults, though.

Man, come to think of it, I had a nice collection of hard cover Dark Knight graphic novels, too. I think it's all still sitting in my parents' garage.

 

[mzzz]

He only thought the planet was unstable and was only experimenting (possibly illegally) with spaceship travel cause their society banned it. He didn't really develop it for many cause he didn't know the planet was going to explode and interstellar travel and spaceships were engrained and illegal in their society of xenophobia. Few Kryptonians did escape: Kara, the criminals in that phantom zone, later on in some other continuities there were other Kryptonians like the ones from Superman: Unbound and in Superman: All-Star.

 

[mzzz]

Man, what the hell, all of the trailers have me so amped to see this, even more so now.

 

[Bluce Ree]

Man, what the hell, all of the trailers have me so amped to see this, even more so now.

Can't wait to see when he defeats them all with his secret weapon:

 

[mzzz]

Last trailer:

 

[Rac80]

despite all the negativity I've heard I'll probably see this movie...if you ask why you don't know me!

 

[Gatefan1976]

despite all the negativity I've heard I'll probably see this movie...if you ask why you don't know me!

oh OH I know!!!
You're a dirty old perve??

 

[mzzz]

despite all the negativity I've heard I'll probably see this movie...if you ask why you don't know me!

Where'd you hear this negativity?

 

[mzzz]

No one watched? Well damn, I know you guys hate Superman but damn. Well here's what I thought, better than Trek and way better than Iron Man 3, Man of Steel could have been better sure, but I thought it was very good, not great, nonetheless.​

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Faora was more badass than Zod. The Smallville fight scenes with her were awesome. They could have fine tuned some things such as cutting the action bits with the machines and not destroying half of Metropolis. Some of the dialogue could have also been looked over and fine tuned. Clark should have been the one to go and save the dog, but they had to kill papa kent somehow and convey the meaning his death had. They could have written that scene slightly differently and still conveyed the message. Jor-El was really great and seemed to have the most lines in the movie?

I really enjoyed the fast paced action though, the terraform machines I could have done without though. Finally, Superman got to cut loose and throw down. They could have done his donning of the suit with more of an oomph somehow. His flying was awesome though. I reaaaaally want to fly like Superman.

Did people catch the Wayne enterprises and Lexcorp logos? Clark's end scene where he has this big smile at the end in the Daily Planet, that was great, you couldn't help but smile back. Overall a good intro film for the DC movie-verse.

 

[Gatefan1976]

Has not come out here yet bro I don't think

 

[Bluce Ree]

No one watched? Well damn, I know you guys hate Superman but damn. Well here's what I thought, better than Trek and way better than Iron Man 3, Man of Steel could have been better sure, but I thought it was very good, not great, nonetheless.

I was looking forward to it until I started reading all these reviews citing the overuse of angst and soul-searching dreariness that apparently drains much of the fun out of the movie. Here are some examples:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162...views-film-wallows-in-sorrow-more-than-soars/

Now, I'm not so sure.

 

[OMNI]

bro it sucks AVOID it like plague TRUST me youll be glad you did.

 

[Joelist]

I have to admit no interest in catching "Man of Angst"...

 

[mzzz]

I was looking forward to it until I started reading all these reviews citing the overuse of angst and soul-searching dreariness that apparently drains much of the fun out of the movie. Here are some examples:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162...views-film-wallows-in-sorrow-more-than-soars/

Now, I'm not so sure.

Most of the critics seem to pan it for not being Marvel-y (campy and light humour), but reading elsewhere with comic book people and whatnot, they liked it for the most part. Superman finally throws punches and whatnot, I was ok with that and that this is an intro into the new DC movie universe, and they can't put everything on the table at once.

But yeah, you probably won't like it.

 

[Illiterati]

I've seen it twice now. Once at the midnight movie last Friday morning, and again yesterday with my Mom and bro.

Overall, I liked it. My only complaint is that the fight scenes were so freaking drawn out.

That said, it's nice to know that after 75 years, Superman finally figured out that underwear is worn UNDER the clothes (hence why it is called UNDERWEAR, not OVERwear).