Mallozzi's Mailbag & More II

[SerenityS]

So, Joe had this to say tonight:
Mailbag:

KEK writes: “Just had a look at the Teamsters Union site, with the SGU sets now being taken down I’m guessing we can assume that here won’t be any live action continuation of SGU, and that Brad was unsuccessful?”

Answer: Not necessarily. For now, I believe the plan is to strike the sets on Stage 6 (the cave and Homeworld Command which were doubtful to be used moving forward anyway). The standing sets (the Destiny corridors, observation deck, gate room over on Stage 4 and the bridge, shuttle, and mess over on Stage 5) will remain standing until we hear definite word that we will not be proceeding with production on any movie(s). And, sorry to say, no news to report on that front.

 

[Rac80]

he just keps stringing the squees along and they follow like the little mindless drones they are. So KEK lurks here eh?

 

[Tropicana]

he just keps stringing the squees along and they follow like the little mindless drones they are. So KEK lurks here eh?

Aye he refers OM1 as an "unreliable source", yet, he doesn't make the effort to call Teamsters himself for source verification. So gutless.

 

[Overmind One]

Its still Reich Gateworld

he just keps stringing the squees along and they follow like the little mindless drones they are. So KEK lurks here eh?

Evidently...LOL. Thing is, she thinks she is lurking a renamed SGU°S and she is expecting the same old same old. What I cant say on the public forums about her will be said in Flame Hell.

 

[Gatefan1976]

Just FYI:
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?78939-SGU-JM-BW-Battling-Hard&p=12368511#post12368511

 

[Briangate78]

he just keps stringing the squees along and they follow like the little mindless drones they are. So KEK lurks here eh?

They all lurk here. Syfy has no issue with me posting here, if GW does, well you know where they can stick it, lol.

Aye he refers OM1 as an "unreliable source", yet, he doesn't make the effort to call Teamsters himself for source verification. So gutless.

Meh, he does that to me when I post ratings info. You guys know I have creditability there. When it comes to ratings I am pretty much spot on, other stuff is just word of mouth rumor stuff. But I did know about SGU being cancelled the night before. I was asked not to say anything.

 

[shavedape]

I find this VERY telling that JM is a liar

KEK writes: “Just had a look at the Teamsters Union site, with the SGU sets now being taken down I’m guessing we can assume that here won’t be any live action continuation of SGU, and that Brad was unsuccessful?”

Answer: Not necessarily. For now, I believe the plan is to strike the sets on Stage 6 (the cave and Homeworld Command which were doubtful to be used moving forward anyway). The standing sets (the Destiny corridors, observation deck, gate room over on Stage 4 and the bridge, shuttle, and mess over on Stage 5) will remain standing until we hear definite word that we will not be proceeding with production on any movie(s). And, sorry to say, no news to report on that front.

So, where was the DEFINITE WORD that the SGA movie wasn't going to happen, you know, the DEFINITE WORD that lead to the deconstruction of the "Atlantis" sets??? According to this statement of JM's that would mean that they received DEFINITE WORD that there would be no more SGA production the following year it was canceled because they tore down those sets right about then. Funny how both he and BW continued to hint at, and talk about, an SGA movie when the sets had been struck without any DEFINITE WORD relayed to the fans.

If someone can find JM's posting about this DEFINITE WORD for the set deconstruction of SGA (which actually had an announced movie attached to it) somewhere on JM's blog I'd love to read it. I seriously doubt it's there though. Funny that, isn't it?

 

[Inara]

Hmm, looks like that idea is wrong as well according to this:
http://www.cinemaspy.com/Television...er-NBCs-17th-Precinct-is-its-Own-Vehicle/4953

There's quite a few articles floating around about this one too

I think the opening paragraph has the key phrase:

Last Thursday we reported that the pilot for Ronald D. Moore's newest series, 17th Precinct, slated for NBC, was headed to Vancouver. Headquartered at the Bridge Studios (where the 'Stargate' franchise was shot), production meetings will take place this week, with a soundstage location TBD.

In other words, they were having production meetings at Bridge Studios, but the actual studio where they'll be shooting is yet to be determined. Which could mean they know Bridge will no longer be available. Or not. They could just not have settled on a space yet.

 

[DeepCoverOp]

Just to clarify a couple of things

The Bridge Studios is home to more than just the stages used by SG. There are a number of stages, and for the vast majority of the time over the years, there have been multiple productions happening simultaneously.

17th Precinct is a fairly small pilot. These seldom involve much of a set build, but utilize a lot of location work to keep cost down. I am not super knowledgable about the size of it, or what it is about, but it is a fairly short term production. It would not likely affect any future plans of SGU, if the movies were to happen.

I would caution anyone from speculating too much on what this or that means. What JM just posted echo's the best info that is available on the ground here in Vancouver. You must remember that TPTB can only propsose a project. As JM has said, they want to do the movies. However, like anyone who makes any product, they have to find a buyer for it (them), or no one will front the money to produce it (them). Finding buyers is up to the studio exec's in LA... At that point, TPTB are more or less spectators like everyone else...

DCO

 

[shavedape]

TPTB are lying scum

Just to clarify a couple of things

The Bridge Studios is home to more than just the stages used by SG. There are a number of stages, and for the vast majority of the time over the years, there have been multiple productions happening simultaneously.

17th Precinct is a fairly small pilot. These seldom involve much of a set build, but utilize a lot of location work to keep cost down. I am not super knowledgable about the size of it, or what it is about, but it is a fairly short term production. It would not likely affect any future plans of SGU, if the movies were to happen.

I would caution anyone from speculating too much on what this or that means. What JM just posted echo's the best info that is available on the ground here in Vancouver. You must remember that TPTB can only propsose a project. As JM has said, they want to do the movies. However, like anyone who makes any product, they have to find a buyer for it (them), or no one will front the money to produce it (them). Finding buyers is up to the studio exec's in LA... At that point, TPTB are more or less spectators like everyone else...

DCO

If they wanted to make movies why didn't they make the the SGA movie? They definitely had a buyer (or buyers) for that.

The problem isn't that JM's information is inaccurate, I'm sure it's quite accurate, it's that he's using the fact that the sets for SGU are still standing to advocate for a movie of it. He used the term "definite word" to imply that those main sets would remain standing until they're officially notified that there would be no SGU movie.

Why is there a "definite word" regarding SGU but there wasn't one for the SGA movie? -- Or was there? The SGA sets stood for close to a year after cancellation. Once those sets were torn down though JM and BW continued to hint and imply that an SGA movie was in the offing even though JM conveniently never mentioned that any "definite word" regarding the fate of SGA had come down from on high. No matter how you slice it we were lied to, blatantly, by both BW and JM regarding the SGA movie, all to further their sick, unpopular agenda with SGU.

It's pretty obvious that the SGA movie had a green light and it had a buyer, then was quietly kiboshed well over a year ago. BW and JM lied to us about it in the hopes that they could string us along and cynically milk us as fans just so we'd help support that horrible excuse for a show called SGU. Got it.

 

[DeepCoverOp]

Hey Shaved Ape

I am here'in ya...

The 'definative word' thing only applies in this circumstance to SGU. I am not in a position to comment on what the thoughts and plans are were with regards to SGA. This business is as non-linear and non-sensical as you will ever find. I could speculate based upon what I do know about what went on with SGA, but I am not going to as it 1) is speculation, and 2) would be appropriate for me to do.

Beyond that, I hear you loud and clear

DCO

 

[stclare]

Well most things we do here start as speculation. Maybe you can give us a brief idea of sga's status? i.e; Dead as a door nail or still in a critical condition.

 

[shavedape]

Hey Shaved Ape

I am here'in ya...

The 'definative word' thing only applies in this circumstance to SGU. I am not in a position to comment on what the thoughts and plans are were with regards to SGA. This business is as non-linear and non-sensical as you will ever find. I could speculate based upon what I do know about what went on with SGA, but I am not going to as it 1) is speculation, and 2) would be appropriate for me to do.

Beyond that, I hear you loud and clear

DCO

I know it's usually pointless to dissect and analyze things from JM's blog, but every now and then the spirit takes me. JM's mention of the sets as being a marker for SGU being alive simply proves that he's still carrying a torch for it. Shame this same attitude wasn't in evidence back when SGA got the axe because the SGA movie was actually more of a reality than this pipe dream of an SGU movie is.

 

[DeepCoverOp]

Also, with regards to the link regarding the sale of the Bridge to Larco - that happened in 2007, check the date on the PDF...

DCO

 

[johnsheppard]

Does this linky work for you guys? http://www.bcpavco.com/pdf/BridgeStudiosalefinal.pdf

it's a press release from 2007 announcing bridge studios went independent then. and was sold to the investment co named in the Hollywood reporter article. color me confused!

Here the GW link abt new owner of bridge studio
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?79862-Sets-probably-being-taken-down&p=12367981&viewfull=1#post12367981

 

[SerenityS]

Hey Shaved Ape

I am here'in ya...

The 'definative word' thing only applies in this circumstance to SGU. I am not in a position to comment on what the thoughts and plans are were with regards to SGA. This business is as non-linear and non-sensical as you will ever find. I could speculate based upon what I do know about what went on with SGA, but I am not going to as it 1) is speculation, and 2) would be appropriate for me to do.

Beyond that, I hear you loud and clear

DCO

I dream that someday we'll find out what really really happened behind the scenes with SGA. I had so much invested in that show, emotionally, that it will always be something that worries at me. It would be good to know, once and for all how it all went down. Ah well...

 

[SerenityS]

And JM's blog is already up tonight:

hal ehrlich writes: “So it seems that you built a new set for the last epsiode , which you said was beautiful. doen’t it stink that you only get to use it for 1 episode ?”
Answer: Actually, we got to use it for two episodes. But it still stinks.

gforce writes: “Regarding the sets, I got word a couple of days ago that the set tours for the April convention in Vancouver are not going to happen, which is disappointing (even though I was kind of expecting it.) I figured that news was a bad sign, but your comment on this post at least still gives us a little hope. Maybe it’s because of lack of staff around at the time?”

Answer: No. I was actually there on Thursday when they were discussing it and the issue was one of costs for lighting up the sets. Even without full lighting, it would have been quite pricey.


Duptiang. writes: “How do they go about choosing those who will do these commentaries and do you expect to do any for the SGU?”

Answer: It really comes down to things – availability and interest. I don’t believe I did (or will be doing any) for season 2.


StellaByStargate writes: “I know you’ve been quiet on the future of SGU/et al lately and understandably so. But, if you were a betting man would you say our chances of getting the SGU storyline (and those few other “goodies”) tied up 1) highly probable, 2) still possible, or 3) fading with each passing day?”

Answer: I’m going to go with 2) still possible. The fact that the sets are still standing is a good sign. It costs money to keep them up/the stages rented, so, at the very least, this does demonstrate a desire to see the production move forward in some form

 

[heisenberg]

Did he say the same thing about SGA?

 

[johnsheppard]

I dream that someday we'll find out what really really happened behind the scenes with SGA. I had so much invested in that show, emotionally, that it will always be something that worries at me. It would be good to know, once and for all how it all went down. Ah well...

I don't know for this bts but it's obvious we'll not get SGA promised movie.
Propworx society are just going to place on bidding a piece of the real Stargate of Atlantis.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Stargate-Atlant...306?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b8db4cb2

Currently no bids and 20h left.

http://stargateartifacts.com/2011/02/15/video-blog-stargate-catalog-2-preview/

Go to 2.43.

I know it's business but it's really sad to see how they can squander all this entire legacy.
No feelings here only business.

 

[johnsheppard]

And JM's blog is already up tonight:

This guy makes me laugh by now.
Sets will be down early March

2) still possible. The fact that the sets are still standing is a good sign. It costs money to keep them up/the stages rented, so, at the very least, this does demonstrate a desire to see the production move forward in some form

I heard the same answer abt Atlantis movie when sets were still up for 1 year and despite these sets are down by now he has always tried to fool us abt SGA to keep us for their baby"crap".Needing us to save sgu and rates when they claimed we were too "old".

http://www.creationent.com/cal/sgvan.htm

FEBRUARY 23, 2011: Unfortunately we have today found out that we are not able to have the set visits at the convention. Here are the various options we are offering to our Gold Weekend Patrons who will be receiving an email shortly so they can make their choice and respond directly to that email so we can track all our Gold Seat members and their decisions:

I noticed too SGA cast will be numerosous except Luttrel Higghison Momoa and Staite all of the others will be there and only 2 members of sgu cast.This just shows how popular is SGA and how unpopular is sgu