Star Wars #7 Character Details

[Overmind One]

Getting more and more of the feeling that these Disney films will serve to trivialize the first 3--even more so-greatly so, then eps 1-3 did. "A new film every year starting in 2015...like we are doing with the Marvel films":

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/disney-cfo-star-wars-marvel-strategy-153558785.html

Disney does not get it. Everything live action they make (to me) gets ruined by writing. Dumb lines are inserted, morality (religious) is weaved into the mix, and so is race or cultural stereotypes. Im thinking they will make JarJar see tame in comparison. Also, Disney tends to dumb things down. I think they will market the films to children and not have a lot for thinking adults to ponder. Also a GIVEN:

There WILL be Star Wars themed rides opened at all Disney theme parks. I envision a complete area in Disneyland devoted to Star Wars. I can see R2D2 rolling down Main Street in the Electric Parades...it is a no-brainer.

 

[shavedape]

He speaks little, and is just badass.
To see all the bounty hunters lined up in ESB and have "the badass" in Vader single him out and say "no disintergrations" and then have Boba track the falcon, and then ARGUE TERMS with Vader as an equal, not an underling is cool.
He may not "rage against the machine" but he sure as hell tells the machine in few words NOT to mess with him.
Basicaly, Boba has the balls that no other Imp has.

I guess I could see the appeal of such a character as it's darker and more realistic compared to the more Disney-esque areas that Lucas took those movies to with other characters such as Ewoks or the droids becoming Laurel and Hardy.

 

[Gatefan1976]

I guess I could see the appeal of such a character as it's darker and more realistic compared to the more Disney-esque areas that Lucas took those movies to with other characters such as Ewoks or the droids becoming Laurel and Hardy.

Ewoks were quite possibly the greatest fail of SW. (original 3)
I see parallels to Hobbits in the ewoks, the value of "the smallest of us making a difference" which is rife in Tolkien, and quite a valid point, but I don't like it being ABUSED as a plot point, like it was in Willow for example as well.
For a race that dominates a 1/3rd of the movie, it needed more than the cutsy factor, and wicket knocking himself out to be valid.

As for the droids, I think they took on a life of their own to an extent, I am not convinced that Lucas saw them as "laurel and Hardy", but that the actors saw them as a method to reflect the humans to a degree.

 

[YJ02]

Potential Boba Fett movie in the works:

http://screenrant.com/star-wars-spinoff-boba-fett-writer-lawrence-kasdan/

Excerpt:

Here is what Schnepp had to offer AMC Movie Talk (via CBM):
“One of [the Star Wars spinoffs] is Boba Fett. It is. I know. I know for a fact. I will never reveal my source, but it is the one written by Lawrence Kasdan.”


Other news involve Marvel taking over Star Wars comics from Dark Horse:

http://comicsalliance.com/dark-horse-star-wars-marvel-randy-stradley/

For a long while, Boba Fett was supposed to be one of the live action tv series' Lucas was going to make-Disney has it easy with the SW stuff. So much has been written and officially sanctioned by Lucas as 'canon', all Disney has to do is shoot it.

 

[YJ02]

He speaks little, and is just badass.
To see all the bounty hunters lined up in ESB and have "the badass" in Vader single him out and say "no disintergrations" and then have Boba track the falcon, and then ARGUE TERMS with Vader as an equal, not an underling is cool.
He may not "rage against the machine" but he sure as hell tells the machine in few words NOT to mess with him.
Basicaly, Boba has the balls that no other Imp has.

I was reading a bit about the backstories of cut out scenes from all three movies. From it comes the story of the 'disintegration'. Apparently some wanted the smoking corpses scene (of Luke's aunt and uncle) taken out of a new hope. Lucas resisted Knowing that he had this Vader and Fett scene in mind. Though we do not see him leading the attack, Fett was supposed to be on Tattoine working for both Vader and Hutt at the same time. The fact that Fett did the disintegration is told by Lucas-round a boutly, and only revealed in total after all 6 movies-when Obi Won says "only stormtroopers are this accurate". Then of course later we get the Vader/Fett no disintegration scene and then we find that Fett and many Stormtroopers of the time still have the same DNA.

The writer of that bit said he had is 'confirmation' through Lucas not denying the story and that this is the way that Lucas works-spinning large webs that force you to pay attention and watch everything so you get all of his inside stories.

So-the smoking skeleton scene had to stay to make the "no disintegrations' scene work

 

[shavedape]

I was reading a bit about the backstories of cut out scenes from all three movies. From it comes the story of the 'disintegration'. Apparently some wanted the smoking corpses scene (of Luke's aunt and uncle) taken out of a new hope. Lucas resisted Knowing that he had this Vader and Fett scene in mind. Though we do not see him leading the attack, Fett was supposed to be on Tattoine working for both Vader and Hutt at the same time. The fact that Fett did the disintegration is told by Lucas-round a boutly, and only revealed in total after all 6 movies-when Obi Won says "only stormtroopers are this accurate". Then of course later we get the Vader/Fett no disintegration scene and then we find that Fett and many Stormtroopers of the time still have the same DNA.

The writer of that bit said he had is 'confirmation' through Lucas not denying the story and that this is the way that Lucas works-spinning large webs that force you to pay attention and watch everything so you get all of his inside stories.

So-the smoking skeleton scene had to stay to make the "no disintegrations' scene work

So only stormtroopers can burn bodies down to the skeleton ala Luke's aunt and uncle? Ooh wow, let's build a backstory around this.

 

[YJ02]

So only stormtroopers can burn bodies down to the skeleton ala Luke's aunt and uncle? Ooh wow, let's build a backstory around this.

It is how Obi Won said it- when they hit the Jawas "These are ST blaster marks only they shoot this accurate" or something like that. Then we know that whoever did the jawas hit the farm too.

You know how these hard core fan-atics get? One inkling or ember of more to the story-and its off to the races (or presses or cameras)/ Something in the story where Fett has a grudge against Vader because of his father being killed by the Jedi-so Fett uses killing Vader's only known relatives for a type of cold revenge.

Look man, I just post the stuff- ya know?

Now, go warm up your toes!!!

 

[shavedape]

It is how Obi Won said it- when they hit the Jawas "These are ST blaster marks only they shoot this accurate" or something like that. Then we know that whoever did the jawas hit the farm too.

You know how these hard core fan-atics get? One inkling or ember of more to the story-and its off to the races (or presses or cameras)/ Something in the story where Fett has a grudge against Vader because of his father being killed by the Jedi-so Fett uses killing Vader's only known relatives for a type of cold revenge.

Look man, I just post the stuff- ya know?

Now, go warm up your toes!!!

I'm not trying to bust on you, just pointing out how inane the Boba Fett story line seems to be.

The way I saw it the storm troopers killed Luke's aunt and uncle, but Boba Fett was nowhere in that mix at that time.

 

[YJ02]

I'm not trying to bust on you, just pointing out how inane the Boba Fett story line seems to be.

The way I saw it the storm troopers killed Luke's aunt and uncle, but Boba Fett was nowhere in that mix at that time.

I know. But as I was saying on the "in deep" fans; pick any minor character you see-especially in the first 3 movies (the oldest ones), even if they never speak, and you can probably find some fan fiction on them that has earned Lucas' blessing.

There is even a short story on the guys in the cantina band

Sometimes I like trolling through some of their sites and reading the vast amount of info generated and the enormity and time and effort invested in developing backstory on such trivial characters in a work of sci-fi.

 

[YJ02]

The Lucas corp is now officially unifying the "expanded SW universe"-cutting out the silly and adding the -what they deem-good
from---http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-news/lucasfilm-brings-order-star-wars-galaxy-movies-comic-191429476.html

"The galaxy far, far away is looking to get more organized.


The many, many characters and events that make up the sprawling "Star Wars" saga will soon be part of one cohesive unit as the gang at Lucasfilm is looking to make the stories told in comic books, novel tie-ins, television series and video games as 'official' as those in the feature films.

It's long been accepted that the "Star Wars" feature films represent true "Star Wars" canon, with material from the other mediums (known as the "Star Wars Expanded Universe") usually only serving as elaborate fan fiction. Now, Lucasfilm Story Group is taking the gargantuan task of making everything count.

"'Star Wars' Canon is now determined by the Lucasfilm Story Group which [Pablo Hidalgo] and I are both a part of," recently tweeted Leland Chee, explaining that the organization "has a hand in all facets of 'Star Wars' storytelling, including movies, TV, games, and publishing."

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Chee also revealed that the "primary goal" of the Lucasfilm Story Group was to do away with any hierarchy between the movies and spinoff material, eventually creating one cohesive canon across the entire franchise. "More so than ever, the canon field will serve us internally simply for classification rather than setting hierarchy," he tweeted.

Chee declined to comment as to when fans might notice things getting a little more "cohesive," though sometime in 2015 is probably a good guess with "Episode VII" being released and the "Star Wars" comics being moved from Dark Horse back to Marvel.

There's no word as to what, if any, elements from the existing "Star Wars" spinoff material might be kept as 'canon' and what might be scrapped. The comics and novels have often gone hog wild with weird ideas and characters, such as Jaxxon, a mercenary/smuggler that looks like a rabbit (and whose ship is called, appropriately enough, the Rabbit's Foot), and the 'Death Troopers,' zombie Stormtroopers that were featured in Joe Schreiber's 2009 novel "Death Troopers." It's probably safe to assume the multiplayer online role-playing game "Star Wars Galaxies" won't get resurrected (Sony stopped play in 2011) and that characters/plots in sequels to "Jedi Knight" and "Jedi Academy" will be throroughly vetted.

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There have been a few comic book storylines and novels that have taken place after the events of "Episode VI — Return of the Jedi," featuring Han and Leia getting married and having three children (twins Jacen and Jaina, and later Anakin) and Luke marrying Mara Jade, the redheaded assassin that was once sent to kill him. It's been rumored that "Star Wars: Episode VII" might feature some of these elements — which, to be honest, would actually be pretty cool, and a strong possibility when you consider the fact that J.J. Abrams wasn't exactly loyal to 'official' canon when he was rebooting "Star Trek.""

 

[YJ02]

A report of some who have been meeting with JJ as possible cast members-Ejiofor (would he play Lando or would that be too obvious?) and Ronan are the only ones that would be in my "like" side well the others I could care less either way--Just please, no Morgan Freeman- the guy is a great actor but he as been in everything lately-"thinning out his rep" if you get what I mean.

Report says that the time frame of the story has shifted with the focus of the story being on the original trip of heroes and less so on their kids.:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-rumors-who-is-669997

 

[Gatefan1976]

well, Disney is looking to focus the canons of SW into just one rather than the separate ones that exist now, so it's *possible* they will go with the thrawn story now.........

 

[shavedape]

Just heard this guy, Jesse Plemmons is having a "meeting" for a role. He's been in Friday Night Lights and Breaking Bad and a slew of other things. I know he looks like someone made love to his face with a 2X4 but for some reason he gets my lady parts all swollen and puffy. Don't hate.

 

[Overmind One]

I never understood the Boba Fett fetish.

I dont get it either. Both he and his kid are just characters in the film to me. That weird ship they fly was kinda cool, and the fact that all of the Imperial Stormtrooper clones are from him still does not explain why some SW fans cherish him like others do R2D2 or Han Solo or Yoda. There was even talk of doing a stand alone movie for this character too? . Meh.

 

[Overmind One]

He speaks little, and is just badass.
To see all the bounty hunters lined up in ESB and have "the badass" in Vader single him out and say "no disintergrations" and then have Boba track the falcon, and then ARGUE TERMS with Vader as an equal, not an underling is cool.
He may not "rage against the machine" but he sure as hell tells the machine in few words NOT to mess with him.
Basicaly, Boba has the balls that no other Imp has.

Didnt Master Windu slice his head off?

EDIt: No that was Jango Fett, the kid's father. The kid in the prequel era is Boba Fett.

 

[Overmind One]

Nope, sequals set after RotJ

Then this is gonna be very dicey for JJ Abrams. He will not be able to leave things be...he will change fundamental things in the SW universe, he will alter characters too much and he will change sounds and ignore existing canon. I just feel a general angst when I think of Abrams doing the next Star Wars.

 

[YJ02]

Just heard this guy, Jesse Plemmons is having a "meeting" for a role. He's been in Friday Night Lights and Breaking Bad and a slew of other things. I know he looks like someone made love to his face with a 2X4 but for some reason he gets my lady parts all swollen and puffy. Don't hate.

Well-judging by his red hair, perhaps you are attracted to the latent Neanderthal in him.

 

[shavedape]

Well-judging by his red hair, perhaps you are attracted to the latent Neanderthal in him.

OMG, give me a Neanderthal ginger any day of the week! Hell, this guy is actually worth buying an antique giant radiator just to chain him to, that's how hot he is.

From what I understand they're looking at him playing one of the kids of Luke or Leia. I'm a SW fan but I'm not a freak about it so I don't understand who all these characters are sooooooo...JJ Abrams better do a good job of clearly explaining exactly who everyone is and their lineage, etc. I don't need anything weird or complicated, I just need clear, concisely defined characters with understandable motivations for their actions.

Oh, and no stupid, cartoon characters like Jar Jar Binks.

 

[Overmind One]

OMG, give me a Neanderthal ginger any day of the week! Hell, this guy is actually worth buying an antique giant radiator just to chain him to, that's how hot he is.

From what I understand they're looking at him playing one of the kids of Luke or Leia. I'm a SW fan but I'm not a freak about it so I don't understand who all these characters are sooooooo...JJ Abrams better do a good job of clearly explaining exactly who everyone is and their lineage, etc. I don't need anything weird or complicated, I just need clear, concisely defined characters with understandable motivations for their actions.

Oh, and no stupid, cartoon characters like Jar Jar Binks.

He sorta has that Orc look about him...

Bolded...LOL! Really Ape? You are really expecting that from JJ "Lensflare" Abrams?

 

[shavedape]

He sorta has that Orc look about him...

Bolded...LOL! Really Ape? You are really expecting that from JJ "Lensflare" Abrams?

I know, but a guy can dream can't he?

Truthfully, I expect a Megabucks lottery ticket to pay off in terms of satisfaction long before JJ Abrams does with his version of SW. Yes, I am a cynic, but you folks already knew that.