Lord Ba'al
Well Known GateFan
Is it his name, the voice he uses, or his outfit?
Star Trek Discovery SUCKS.
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heisenberg
Earl Grey
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/star-t...ar-trek-captain-kirk-not-returning-tv-reboot/
Looks like shatner doesn't like the new show either
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Looks like shatner doesn't like the new show either
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The Great Gazoo
GateFans Cadet
None of the above . I enjoy his inteligent ridiculing banter of std . Also his sense of humour regarding afore mentioned travasty and its cast , crew and tptb . Marmorated stink bugs that they are !
heisenberg
Earl Grey
Hahaha...does this line remind you of anyone?
Well.....help me out here? I'm not sure...
heisenberg
Earl Grey
PussyGalore
Meow
I'm not trying to "harsh" on you here but I'm pretty sure the writers of STD tossed in more than a few lame cultural references. When the original series did it it was effective and made you think about the issue they were referencing. ("Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" was particularly good in this regard.)
But mimicking Trump in a Star Trek episode is just plain dumb. Once again the STD writers show us that they are amateurs that are incapable of quality story telling. The level of writing from the STD staff simply can't compare to TOS and the other Trek shows. The other Trek shows never got directly political, instead they addressed issues in the abstract such as race relations, etc. The staff writers for TOS, TNG, DS9, etc. didn't have to take direct swipes at sitting presidents because those writers were talented and knew how to weave relevant social commentary into the story they were writing.
STD is such shitty writing. I say this not as someone defending Trump but as someone who is insulted by the amateurish level of writing the nitwits at STD are pumping out. If they want to reference the Trump administration they could at least do it more deftly; more abstractedly so as not to be so obvious. Hell, they would have been better off having Lorca say "Duh...Twump is bad. Bad Twump, bad!" At least that bit of writing would have been more honest and less insulting to the intelligence of the viewers.
*Again, I'm not defending Trump. I just hate shitty writing. I especially hate shitty political writing inserted into a beloved franchise like Star Trek. If the writers of STD can't give us the high quality writing that ST demands then they shouldn't do it at all.
(Goddamn, the more I see of this show the more I hate it. It's so incredibly bad on so many levels that it's mind blowing. The entire production is nothing more than one giant "FU!" to Star Trek fans everywhere. Thank God "The Expanse" exists as eye bleach we can use after glimpsing STD.)
heisenberg
Earl Grey
Oh I agree with you and I am not offended here. I don't care for politics, but I just thought I lay how disgraceful the writing staff at Star Trek is by trying to inject modern cultural references like this.
The answer why STD sucks is because it was rushed out the door. It takes a decade or so to write a show but these guys want it out the door to compete with Star Wars. Even Star Wars suffered a lot.
PussyGalore
Meow
You make some good points. It does take years to make a quality ST (or SW) product. This isn't just in relation to developing the story but also in developing one's knowledge and appreciation of the source material. Any new Star Trek show (or Star Wars movie) should be helmed by a genuine fan who will be loyal to the source material. But the folks at STD clearly are not ST fans. They cynically think they don't have to respect Roddenberry's vision. No true ST fan could conceive of giving us the steaming pile of excrement that is STD. They couldn't do that. It's simply not possible for someone who truly understands and appreciates Star Trek.
This is stupid virtue signaling. Then again, with having your lead actress be a no talent SJW, your lead actor also being noted for SJW-ism and stories where they virtue signaled constantly why should we be shocked when they also blatantly plagiariazed someone else’s work? Usually when you see the SJW type symptoms they are symptoms of poor writing.
heisenberg
Earl Grey
When you write a story that you want to last for eons, it takes a long time and a lot of effort to make a properly thought out TV series. If they didn't have anything new good to say for Star Trek, they shouldn't have brought out anything but these people wanted to make a quick buck because they wanted to jump on a bandwagon and we all know that hollywood and the mainstream media loves to cling onto bandwagons but when the wheels start falling, no one wants to fix it. I can go back to watching old TNG episodes and keep wanting to watch more of it whereas this, this has zero replayability. Here is the arrogance of this piece of shit.
100 million people watching it? HAHAHA! Yeah, 100 million bots lmfao.
What I find amusing is that Jason Isaacs is only 55 and looks about 15 years older than me and I am 58.
Even Patrick Stewart looks better, and he is 78!
PussyGalore
Meow
This dude is a pompous asshole and virtually nothing he said was true. He pulled the "100 million viewers" statistic straight from his ass. Star Trek fans have not embraced this show. They have rejected it en masse. This is a verifiable fact of reality.
This reminds me of the days when the stars of SGU would give interviews and shit all over the loyal Stargate fans who didn't like the new show. They were pathetic bootlickers, like this turd, who had no appreciation or respect for the original source material. No matter, Cancellation Bear wiped the smugness off their faces and he will do the same this time around too. It's only a matter of time.
Lord Ba'al
Well Known GateFan
O my god Jason Isaacs is a massive dick! I didn't like him in the show in the first place so I had no particular affection for him (nor the opposite) but after seeing that he is absolutely nothing to me forever.
I hope that CBS sinks ALL of their money into this show and it'll make them go bankrupt so that the rights to Star Trek have to be sold off and could potentially come in the hands of a party who does have a clue about what should be done with them.
The Great Gazoo
GateFans Cadet
PussyGalore
Meow
If it had aired during the 80's it would have been a completely different show. There would have been none of the soapfi melodrama and sex informing the story. It would have been mostly action driven stories and the good guys would have been good and the bad guys would have been bad. There would be no confusion between the two.
And yes,"character development adventure" is critical to making the viewers bond to the characters. The problem with SGU was that the characters were antagonistic assholes from the very start. There was no sense of camaraderie or togetherness. And over the course of 2 seasons there was very little cohesiveness amongst them. (In fact I seem to recall at the end of season 1 Dr. Rush abandoned Col. Young on a planet and left him behind to die.)
In short, the characters on SGU were nasty creatures right out of the box so there was not much reason for viewers to bond with them. We were given heroes in the previous Stargate shows hence our appreciation of them. It's kind of a no-brainer that when you replace our heroes with shitbags we're gonna reject them. The same applies to STD. Michael Bernham was a wholly unlikable character right out of the box. She wasn't a misguided hero with a heart of gold; she was a mutinous traitor that started a war and got her people killed. Her motivations were not relatable. And trying to rehabilitate her later on in the series would never get viewers to like her. It's simply not possible.
Star Trek, like Stargate, is a story about likable heroes. When you replace those heroes with confused, reprehensible reprobates you're gonna lose viewers. Like I said, it's a no-brainer.
The Great Gazoo
GateFans Cadet
The Great Gazoo
GateFans Cadet
You mean like what this guy is doing !This dude is a pompous asshole and virtually nothing he said was true. He pulled the "100 million viewers" statistic straight from his ass. Star Trek fans have not embraced this show. They have rejected it en masse. This is a verifiable fact of reality.
This reminds me of the days when the stars of SGU would give interviews and shit all over the loyal Stargate fans who didn't like the new show. They were pathetic bootlickers, like this turd, who had no appreciation or respect for the original source material. No matter, Cancellation Bear wiped the smugness off their faces and he will do the same this time around too. It's only a matter of time.
PussyGalore
Meow
Pretty much, yeah.
*BTW, the chick in the video really knows her stuff. She hits all the relevant points regarding STD and Kturdsman. (The "K" is silent.
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