Mallozzi's Mailbag & More II

[shavedape]

You gotta read this one!

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com...niverse-beyond-season-2-what-might-have-been/

Normally I don't hype JM's stuff but this one you all have to read.

ETA: For some reason I found this line hilarious. I'm still chuckling.

In this scenario, Eli goes to awaken the crew from stasis and discovers Chloe’s pod has been damaged. She is almost brain dead and fading fast...

And don't miss the comments! Too good! He goes off about the "F the French" thing.

 

[Overmind One]

Hahahahaha! I wonder if he wrote that with a straight face!

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com...niverse-beyond-season-2-what-might-have-been/

Normally I don't hype JM's stuff but this one you all have to read.

ETA: For some reason I found this line hilarious. I'm still chuckling.


And don't miss the comments! Too good! He goes off about the "F the French" thing.

ALMOST brain dead?

This was pure soap:

Another deliciously diabolical idea Brad came up with would have been a huge game-changer. In this scenario, Eli goes to awaken the crew from stasis and discovers Chloe’s pod has been damaged. She is almost brain dead and fading fast. In a desperate, last ditch effort to save her, Eli downloads Ginn’s consciousness into her body. Would he tell the others what he has done or would Eli attempt to maintain the subterfuge? What effect will this have on the rest of the crew, especially Scott who has effectively lost Chloe but will always be reminded of what he had. And how will he react to the sight of the body of his former love, now permanently occupied by Ginn, re-establishing a relationship with Eli? This would have been huge and, I think, an awesome opportunity for the immensely talented Elyse Levesque to switch gears to play a completely different character.

And his blathering about the F the French thing...I dont care about what was written, since many people share the sentiment of the author of that poignant graffiti. The question I want answered is WHO wrote it! Somebody whose job it was to scribble nonsensical equations on those set walls got pissed and wrote it with the magical chalk that Rush never runs out of (from the same place that that magical notepad keeps spawning paper despite how many pages he tears out of it and balls up to throw petulantly at the walls.) :roll: A set hand, one of the actors, a disgruntled employee of the production company...whodunit?

How the hell did we miss it? No excuses. :beckettu: I don’t know. In the past, certain things have gotten past us. There was the infamous Snickers bar in SGA’s The Ark. There was the boom mike in SGU’s Space. And, most memorable of all, was the camera operator in the SGA season four premiere that we only noticed during the Day 2 mix – and only because eagle-eyed Martin Gero was the one to suddenly notice – in the opening scene, a bunch of medical equipment sweeps by followed by Weir on the gurney and, finally the camera operator bringing up the rear! In the case of this incident, we missed it and I’m sorry. Paul suspects that the reason it got by everyone is that the shot is actually a visual effect and that, whenever we watched it, rather than taking in other aspects of the room, we were focusing on the set extension behind the approaching Chloe to make sure it worked – thereby missing what was right in front of us.

What about the car going past in Human? They got a AWARD for that episode, so that means the judges missed it too? ALL of the judges?

 

[Mr. A]

This was pure soap:

Another deliciously diabolical idea Brad came up with would have been a huge game-changer. In this scenario, Eli goes to awaken the crew from stasis and discovers Chloe’s pod has been damaged. She is almost brain dead and fading fast. In a desperate, last ditch effort to save her, Eli downloads Ginn’s consciousness into her body. Would he tell the others what he has done or would Eli attempt to maintain the subterfuge? What effect will this have on the rest of the crew, especially Scott who has effectively lost Chloe but will always be reminded of what he had. And how will he react to the sight of the body of his former love, now permanently occupied by Ginn, re-establishing a relationship with Eli? This would have been huge and, I think, an awesome opportunity for the immensely talented Elyse Levesque to switch gears to play a completely different character.

Is this garbage what "Stargate Fans" really tune in to see?
Haven't they learned ANYTHING from their failed adventure into bad soap opera???

 

[Mr. A]

And his blathering about the F the French thing...I dont care about what was written, since many people share the sentiment of the author of that poignant graffiti. The question I want answered is WHO wrote it! Somebody whose job it was to scribble nonsensical equations on those set walls got pissed and wrote it with the magical chalk that Rush never runs out of (from the same place that that magical notepad keeps spawning paper despite how many pages he tears out of it and balls up to throw petulantly at the walls.) :roll: A set hand, one of the actors, a disgruntled employee of the production company...whodunit?

Exactly! Everything he writes is fine and dandy, but not really relevant to the issue. That's not the kind of thing that normally "appears" on the set like a Snickers bar or a camera technician and then you have to keep an eye on.
We don't care that he missed it or why. Somebody wrote it there with a purpose and that's what the fans want to know!

 

[Gatefan1976]

Exactly! Everything he writes is fine and dandy, but not really relevant to the issue. That's not the kind of thing that normally "appears" on the set like a Snickers bar or a camera technician and then you have to keep an eye on.
We don't care that he missed it or why. Somebody wrote it there with a purpose and that's what the fans want to know!

Who cares what you think, you are just making idiot comments..................

 

[Mr. A]

Another wonderful quote by Joe "PR" Mallozzi!

Who cares what you think, you are just making idiot comments..................

... and that directly from my mom's basement.

 

[Mr. A]

There are a lot more gems in Joe's blog entry:

After all, who better than Eli, the embodiment of our fans and viewers, to make the sacrifice and leave us with that final sense and wonder?

But, realistically, there are more than a few of you who go to movies and watch television shows so that you don’t have to make up your own damn ending!

Yeah, that's what we watch a show for. To get some input and then finish the story in our minds - the one you writers were to lazy to bring to closure or couldn't get out of the dead end until perhaps much later on a Kinosode or just declare it happened "off camera".

Again, it would need to be something a little more clever than Eli awakening Rush three years later and informing him: “Yeah, I managed to reroute enough power to life support. How? Oh, I’ll tell you later.”. In my mind, the solution rested with the lone remaining shuttle. Given its independent system, Eli could reroute all of Destiny’s power reserves to maintaining life support with the closed confines of the shuttle and, perhaps, the sealed-off antechamber to the ship where he could store enough food to last him three years.

Yes, Eli the uber mathematician, astronomer, pilot and scientist now also manages to get degrees in Engineering and alien technology... via stones? Or was he also bitten by the smurf people?

Over the course of three (+?) years, Earth finally finds a way to dial Destiny and launches a rescue op. The power source used could be something the combined brilliance of both Samantha Carter and Rodney McKay engineer (if the SGU movie had happened, they would have surely guested, boarding Destiny as part of the retrieval team) or, perhaps former leader Jonas Quinn comes out of early retirement and – again with Carter and McKay’s help – finds a safe way to dial Destiny from his planet. As for what other familiar faces from SG-1 and Atlantis would make an appearance – well, aside from the obvious (Daniel Jackson who certainly wouldn’t miss this opportunity), it was up in the air.

It looks like we dodged a bullet here. Good news!

We probably would have found a cure for T.J.’s condition – but only eventually. I liked the idea of one of our main characters having to face her mortality, perhaps even exhibiting early signs of physical deterioration that forces their friends and loved ones to face the sad prospect as well. If we were going to cure her (and, again, that was the most likely scenario) I would have lobbied to play out T.J.’s battle with ALS over the course of a season at least.

Right, why rush a story you can spread out thin over an entire season or two? The dragging on of some drama worked so well for season 1...

So who would T.J. have ended up with? Young or Varro? I don’t know. I honestly don’t think this would have ever been resolved. If it was up to me, she would have ended up with Varro. If it was up to Carl and most everyone else, she and Young would have lived happily ever after.

Oh the suspense!

 

[Gatefan1976]

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Yes, Eli the uber mathematician, astronomer, pilot and scientist now also manages to get degrees in Engineering and alien technology... via stones? Or did he also get bitten by the smurf people?

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It looks like we dodged a bullet here. Good news!

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Right, why rush a story you can spread out thin over an entire season or two? The dragging on of some drama worked so well for season 11...

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Oh the suspense!

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No, I could not be bothered to respond any other way

 

[shavedape]

Exactly!

Is this garbage what "Stargate Fans" really tune in to see?
Haven't they learned ANYTHING from their failed adventure into bad soap opera???

It blows my mind, just blows my mind that he even considered this as a legit story line. More proof that up to the very end he did not get it. There are clever character/plot twists and then there are stupid soap gimmicks. This one is the latter.

 

[Rac80]

It blows my mind, just blows my mind that he even considered this as a legit story line. More proof that up to the very end he did not get it. There are clever character/plot twists and then there are stupid soap gimmicks. This one is the latter.

HEY!!! that was actually done on General Hospital back in the 80's.

 

[Tropicana]

Is this garbage what "Stargate Fans" really tune in to see?
Haven't they learned ANYTHING from their failed adventure into bad soap opera???

Wow, what a "game-changer". What next huh? I've said it before and will say it again, maybe Scott has an evil twin brother who will turn Wray to play for the straight team, while double-crossing Eli by sleeping with Ginn in Chloe's body. Simply amazing, out of this world. How about taking a storyline from British soap? Let's say Eastenders. We find the Queen Vic pub onboard Destiny that explodes. Instead of evacuating in an orderly fashion, let's scream and wail in such incivility going to and fro from the burning pub.

[video=youtube;a-McFyb9YmM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-McFyb9YmM

 

[shavedape]

HEY!!! that was actually done on General Hospital back in the 80's.

The scary thing is, you're probably right. What gets me is that this guy not only thought of all these ridiculous scenarios but then he goes and publicly admits to them.

 

[Mr. A]

Wow, what a "game-changer". What next huh? I've said it before and will say it again, maybe Scott has an evil twin brother who will turn Wray to play for the straight team, while double-crossing Eli by sleeping with Ginn in Chloe's body. Simply amazing, out of this world. How about taking a storyline from British soap? Let's say Eastenders. We find the Queen Vic pub onboard Destiny that explodes. Instead of evacuating in an orderly fashion, let's scream and wail in such incivility going to and fro from the burning pub.

 

[SciphonicStranger]

Wow, what a "game-changer". What next huh? I've said it before and will say it again, maybe Scott has an evil twin brother who will turn Wray to play for the straight team, while double-crossing Eli by sleeping with Ginn in Chloe's body. Simply amazing, out of this world. How about taking a storyline from British soap? Let's say Eastenders. We find the Queen Vic pub onboard Destiny that explodes. Instead of evacuating in an orderly fashion, let's scream and wail in such incivility going to and fro from the burning pub.

I was always wondering when the writers would bring in some plotlines from Skins.

 

[Gatefan1976]

So I was reading up on JM's blog and came across this rather interesting dichotomy:

BoltBait writes: “Any comment on this? http://www.gateworld.net/news/2011/05/an-open-letter-to-stargate-fans-%20%20from-syfy/“

Answer: Back in the last few years of Stargate, I took to giving the network notes on their notes. Essentially, I would go through the notes, address the concerns I could, then specifically respond to ones I couldn’t do or felt I shouldn’t do. As I read this article, I felt like responding in similar fashion. A lot of good points are raised. On the other hand, a lot of baffling points are made as well. For starters, I don’t think an official explanation on the part of SyFy is necessary. While I can empathize with fans who object to the abruptness of the cancellation after ten years on the network, one has to understand that television is a business. If SyFy has alternate scripted programming that performs better on Mondays or Tuesdays in the fall, then it’s understandable why they would choose those shows over a third season of SGU. That said, certain statements in the article had me scratching my head…
“When MGM decided to bring Stargate Atlantis to an end after five seasons…”
Hmmmm. Not to belabor the point (because I have discussed this in past entries) but, at the time, when we asked the studio whether or not there was any interest on their part in producing a sixth season of Atlantis, I was told that, while the increased budget made a season six less attractive for them, there were other reasons to do it (ie. as a lead-in to the new series). I wasn’t privy to the final decision-making process so it’s possible that the studio had an 11th hour change of heart – but I’m not sure why they would have.




Joe Cool writes: “if we gathered fans to donate money and started a project on kickstarter.com for you guys to be able to continue some form of production on the stargate canon (whether it be a movie or a comic book or webisodes or what have you) do you think that could be beneficial at all?”
Answer: Afraid not. MGM owns Stargate and the final decision on what gets produced and when rests with them.


Am I the only one seeing a problem here?

 

[YoshiKart64]

So I was reading up on JM's blog and came across this rather interesting dichotomy:

BoltBait writes: “Any comment on this? http://www.gateworld.net/news/2011/05/an-open-letter-to-stargate-fans-%20%20from-syfy/“

Answer: Back in the last few years of Stargate, I took to giving the network notes on their notes. Essentially, I would go through the notes, address the concerns I could, then specifically respond to ones I couldn’t do or felt I shouldn’t do. As I read this article, I felt like responding in similar fashion. A lot of good points are raised. On the other hand, a lot of baffling points are made as well. For starters, I don’t think an official explanation on the part of SyFy is necessary. While I can empathize with fans who object to the abruptness of the cancellation after ten years on the network, one has to understand that television is a business. If SyFy has alternate scripted programming that performs better on Mondays or Tuesdays in the fall, then it’s understandable why they would choose those shows over a third season of SGU. That said, certain statements in the article had me scratching my head…
“When MGM decided to bring Stargate Atlantis to an end after five seasons…”
Hmmmm. Not to belabor the point (because I have discussed this in past entries) but, at the time, when we asked the studio whether or not there was any interest on their part in producing a sixth season of Atlantis, I was told that, while the increased budget made a season six less attractive for them, there were other reasons to do it (ie. as a lead-in to the new series). I wasn’t privy to the final decision-making process so it’s possible that the studio had an 11th hour change of heart – but I’m not sure why they would have.




Joe Cool writes: “if we gathered fans to donate money and started a project on kickstarter.com for you guys to be able to continue some form of production on the stargate canon (whether it be a movie or a comic book or webisodes or what have you) do you think that could be beneficial at all?”
Answer: Afraid not. MGM owns Stargate and the final decision on what gets produced and when rests with them.


Am I the only one seeing a problem here?

Not really since if Syfy said no, MGM has no choice in the matter. I think what Joe has said here is that he frankly doesn't know what happened regarding SGA. He's told us what he was told and is as confused as the rest of us who were not privy to the upper level meetings.

Incidentally I'm enjoying his mailbags now more than ever - I think he's being pretty open about what he does, what he knows and what he thinks.

Also (and I know this won't be popular) I think the idea of someone else inhabiting Chloe's body was a pretty neat idea. I wouldn't have done it with her character but the whole 'walking dead' angle could be extremely interesting if handled right. Somebody else's body, face and eyes while its not really them, on a confined ship no less - it would be enough to make someone go nuts. Again though, neat idea, wrong character as the whole story rests on the reaction of the partner; Scott quite frankly interests me the least when it concerns his relationship.

 

[Bluce Ree]

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Not to belabor the point (because I have discussed this in past entries) but, at the time, when we asked the studio whether or not there was any interest on their part in producing a sixth season of Atlantis, I was told that, while the increased budget made a season six less attractive for them, there were other reasons to do it (ie. as a lead-in to the new series). I wasn’t privy to the final decision-making process so it’s possible that the studio had an 11th hour change of heart – but I’m not sure why they would have.
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[Gatefan1976]

Not really since if Syfy said no, MGM has no choice in the matter. I think what Joe has said here is that he frankly doesn't know what happened regarding SGA. He's told us what he was told and is as confused as the rest of us who were not privy to the upper level meetings.

Incidentally I'm enjoying his mailbags now more than ever - I think he's being pretty open about what he does, what he knows and what he thinks.

Also (and I know this won't be popular) I think the idea of someone else inhabiting Chloe's body was a pretty neat idea. I wouldn't have done it with her character but the whole 'walking dead' angle could be extremely interesting if handled right. Somebody else's body, face and eyes while its not really them, on a confined ship no less - it would be enough to make someone go nuts. Again though, neat idea, wrong character as the whole story rests on the reaction of the partner; Scott quite frankly interests me the least when it concerns his relationship.

Yoshi
On one hand he and alot of the pro SGU peeps are blaming Syfy for the "cancellation" of SGA/SGU yet he admits himself that ONLY MGM has the power to cancel anything. He also can be seen as saying that Syfy did have some interest in continuing SGA, "Something happened" in those last talks to stop that option. If Syfy was at least open to the concept originally, that leaves either Brad or MGM "on the hook" for the events that came to pass. (RCC was not involved either, so for this he gets a pass). None of us were there, so it is pure speculation on our behalf true, but ask yourself, who, out of any of the 3 parties got what they wanted??

 

[Bluce Ree]

Yoshi
On one hand he and alot of the pro SGU peeps are blaming Syfy for the "cancellation" of SGA/SGU yet he admits himself that ONLY MGM has the power to cancel anything. He also can be seen as saying that Syfy did have some interest in continuing SGA, "Something happened" in those last talks to stop that option. If Syfy was at least open to the concept originally, that leaves either Brad or MGM "on the hook" for the events that came to pass. (RCC was not involved either, so for this he gets a pass). None of us were there, so it is pure speculation on our behalf true, but ask yourself, who, out of any of the 3 parties got what they wanted??

Let's not leave out the possibility that Syfy and MGM may not have been able to find common ground on the financial aspect, either.

MGM: I want you pay this!
Syfy: No! I pay that!
MGM: No! You pay this!
Syfy: Ok, but I pay later!
MGM: No! You pay now! NOW!!

 

[Gatefan1976]

Let's not leave out the possibility that Syfy and MGM may not have been able to find common ground on the financial aspect, either.

MGM: I want you pay this!
Syfy: No! I pay that!
MGM: No! You pay this!
Syfy: Ok, but I pay later!
MGM: No! You pay now! NOW!!

Oh, I'm sure there was alot of that kind of crap as well