Star Trek: Picard

[PussyGalore]

Rick Berman Endorses Michael Chabon Joining Star Trek Family For Picard Series


https://trekmovie.com/2018/09/04/ri...n-joining-star-trek-family-for-picard-series/

hmmm seeing his resume I am not so convinced.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0149290/#writer

Well, if you think about it how much worse can things get with Trek? At this point it's literally a crap shoot. If we're lucky Chabon will contribute nicely to the franchise. But if he doesn't it doesn't matter because the franchise is already ruined.

 

[Overmind One]

Well, if you think about it how much worse can things get with Trek? At this point it's literally a crap shoot. If we're lucky Chabon will contribute nicely to the franchise. But if he doesn't it doesn't matter because the franchise is already ruined.

Wait, Rick Berman? . Isn't Michael Piller available??? I imagine Ronald Moore is too expensive after BSG. But Rick Berman? He is just another canon stomper wanting to change Star Trek into something different. I did like Enterprise after watching it a few times, but that was only after the 2009 Abrams reboot made it look better. Conversely, Into Darkness and Beyond retroactively ruined the 2009 movie for me.

 

[Lord Ba'al]

I did like Enterprise after watching it a few times, but that was only after the 2009 Abrams reboot made it look better.

 

[PussyGalore]

Wait, Rick Berman? . Isn't Michael Piller available??? I imagine Ronald Moore is too expensive after BSG. But Rick Berman? He is just another canon stomper wanting to change Star Trek into something different. I did like Enterprise after watching it a few times, but that was only after the 2009 Abrams reboot made it look better. Conversely, Into Darkness and Beyond retroactively ruined the 2009 movie for me.

Enterprise is when they really started to go off the rails with the direction of ST. It wasn't horrible but it was heavily flawed in places. I think showing the early days of Star Fleet and how warp drive was put to use by humans could be interesting. But they dropped the ball a lot and didn't seem to have any real direction for the story. Then we got the reboot movies. Then we got STD which proved that TPTB were stuck in a masturbatory fugue with the early days of Trek.

 

[Gate_Boarder]

Wait, Rick Berman? . Isn't Michael Piller available???

Sorry, Micheal Piller, the senior, contracted brain cancer while filming 'The Dead Zone', and bit the bullet around 2005

 

[Overmind One]

Sorry, Micheal Piller, the senior, contacted brain cancer while filming 'The Dead Zone', and bit the bullet around 2005

Awww...I did not know that. Well, Bryan Fuller is still around and so is Ronald Moore. Even Jonathan Frakes and LeVar Burton would be a better choice than Rick Berman.

 

[Overmind One]

Got to love these comments. I see this sort of nonsense repeating in all forms of art including star wars. I love it how they can twist it around and say, just because you don't like it don't watch it. It's as if we don't have a say in it. These dickheads that have plagued and infected the internet, have made it such a toxic place. The internet was such a fun place before 2008. It was a lot more open and free.

Thing is, they can make excuses and bend themselves into pretzels trying to claim there is nothing wrong with Star Trek and Star Wars, but the bottom line is still dollars and/or viewers. Discovery is hated. That is just a cold hard fact that makes itself known by the lack of enthusiasm (measured by subscribers). Star Wars will feel it in the reduced box office profits.

 

[PussyGalore]

Thing is, they can make excuses and bend themselves into pretzels trying to claim there is nothing wrong with Star Trek and Star Wars, but the bottom line is still dollars and/or viewers. Discovery is hated. That is just a cold hard fact that ,makes itself known by the lack of enthusiasm (measured by subscribers). Star Wars will feel it in the reduced box office profits.

I love how dipshits like "Fleet Enema Scott" shove their fingers in their ears and neurotically scream "It's canon! It's canon! It's canon!" despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. These people are pathetic lapdogs that annoyingly bark at anything that moves. Such losers.

 

[Overmind One]

I love how dipshits like "Fleet Enema Scott" shove their fingers in their ears and neurotically scream "It's canon! It's canon! It's canon!" despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. These people are pathetic lapdogs that annoyingly bark at anything that moves. Such losers.

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They go on about how there is like, NO canon deviation or flat out fabrication of "canon" in Discovery. It's simply absurd, and to deny that this turd of a show is not at all related to Star Trek is an insult to all Star Trek fans. Two generations of them!

Shills, or delusional fanboys of the new show will be the ones who say "Well, the showrunners say it's Star Trek, and so by that alone, shut up and go away!". Or, they will insist that what the show is saying the canon should be is canon because it IS Star Trek, so all you Trekkies suck it up, cause it is canon whether you like it or not!

Ugh.

 

[PussyGalore]

They go on about how there is like, NO canon deviation or flat out fabrication of "canon" in Discovery. It's simply absurd, and to deny that this turd of a show is not at all related to Star Trek is an insult to all Star Trek fans. Two generations of them!

Shills, or delusional fanboys of the new show will be the ones who say "Well, the showrunners say it's Star Trek, and so by that alone, shut up and go away!". Or, they will insist that what the show is saying the canon should be is canon because it IS Star Trek, so all you Trekkies suck it up, cause it is canon whether you like it or not!

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Ugh.

OMG, this dude is such a pathetic fanboi. His desperation to be taken seriously as a Star Trek authority figure is both laughable and pitiful.

 

[Lord Ba'al]

https://www-indiewire-com.cdn.amppr...wart-michelle-yeoh-cbs-all-access-1202053259/

 

[Overmind One]

So is Kurtzman saying that Picard's whole character arc is to get back to being the man he was in TNG?

In others words they have fundamentally changed his character as a contrivance to produce what they think is legitimate characterisation?

It sound like psychology written in crayon to me. Unless a character is suffering from alcoholism or something external like that that alters who they are and needs to get through it any changes that is made to a persons personality as a result of life circumstances alters them FOREVER. There is no going back.

These kind of things were touched on in Star Treks 2 and 6 when Kirk realised he couldn't be the young space cowboy battling Klingons anymore. He had to change and mature.

Does anyone here think that Kurtzman is capable of writing a psychologically rooted character who has changed ( and seemingly not matured based on the fact he has to get back to being the Picard of old ) and moved far from himself.

It seems to me that Picard has been altered by Kurtzman simply to contrive a character arc. More simplistic writing. Meyer took Kirk forward in his Star Trek films. Kurtzman plans to take Picard backwards apparently.

That doesn't feel like Trek to me. I hope I'm wrong.

EXCELLENT observations and I share them with you. This Jake Picard they want to portray is not going to be our Picard, because Kurtzman and his writers do not know him. They have not watched him develop over 7 seasons and gotten to know his quirks and experiences. This new fantasy writer they added to the Star Trek executive crew alongside (replacing?) Alex Kurtzman as the action end of decision making, will change everything even more than now in Discovery. This "Pickharde" they will have will be nothing like Jean Luc Picard, and he will be living in a universe that does not feel or look like anything from Star Trek that we know. And, already we know it will be an interpersonal drama.

Kurtzman is a hack. His writing is simplistic and sophomoric and most of all, shallow. The only thing this NuTrek has been good for is kickass visuals. But they are still not Star Trek visuals as far as I am concerned.

 

[YJ02]

this aired on jan 25th of this year

just a bit of Stewart on the Graham Norton show

a little on the new show --potentially the show that never was-- and a bit from Stewart on how he did a screen test as Picard with a french accent

 

[Lord Ba'al]

So the name for the new Star Trek Picard series has now been unveiled as...

Drumroll...

Star Trek: Picard

I was only off by a colon when I started this thread.

 

[Atlantis]

Netflix apparently has rejected Star Trek: Picard but picked up by Amazon.

 

[Overmind One]

Netflix apparently has rejected Star Trek: Picard but picked up by Amazon.

Yes, I already posted this in the Star Trek Discovery Sucks thread. That is a huge thing for them to reject this show. And I think Amazon picked it up because they don't know how horribly Kurtzman's Star Trek concepts have turned out. I am guessing he has collected his best spin writers and talked it up to be so awesome that everyone will be watching it. It's gonna suck, and we already know it. Fantasy writers are writing it, and they have already said this Jean Luc Picard will be "very different" than the one we know. He will be living in the Kelvin timeline, and it will be a "psychological" show. None of that sounds like Star Trek I know or the Picard I know. I will not even watch the first episode before reading how others react to it.

 

[SciphonicStranger]

Yes, I already posted this in the Star Trek Discovery Sucks thread. That is a huge thing for them to reject this show. And I think Amazon picked it up because they don't know how horribly Kurtzman's Star Trek concepts have turned out. I am guessing he has collected his best spin writers and talked it up to be so awesome that everyone will be watching it. It's gonna suck, and we already know it. Fantasy writers are writing it, and they have already said this Jean Luc Picard will be "very different" than the one we know. He will be living in the Kelvin timeline, and it will be a "psychological" show. None of that sounds like Star Trek I know or the Picard I know. I will not even watch the first episode before reading how others react to it.

Wait, I didn't think Netflix ever rejected ANY show. It must really suck.

 

[Lord Ba'al]

 

[Overmind One]

Picard is going to suck...I just know it. Everything I am hearing about it sounds horrible. Picard is an old man now, and he is not Captain of the Enterprise which makes me wonder what exactly they are going for here. Picard is no James T Kirk. Even a show about Kirk's life or Spock's life would NOT be Star Trek. It isn't about characters nearly as much as about the TREK which appears to have escaped Kurtzman and his team. I loved Jean Luc Picard as Captain of the Enterprise, but I am not that interested in his personal life.

 

[Lord Ba'al]

First two episodes wrapped.

https://metro-co-uk.cdn.ampproject....first-episodes-trailer-huge-hit-fans-9697095/