Star Trek 2009 - The saddest part of this movie ...

[Joelist]

I don't think we'll see the little critter again. And if 2009 is any indicator we can expect not to see any real amount of flashbacks or angst. Remember the only reason we got childhood scenes in the prior film was to establish the characters.

 

[Overmind One]

I don't think we'll see the little critter again. And if 2009 is any indicator we can expect not to see any real amount of flashbacks or angst. Remember the only reason we got childhood scenes in the prior film was to establish the characters.

Very true. This movie will allow us to plot a course between the two points they choose. Im already thinking about the third movie!

 

[Bluce Ree]

I don't think we'll see the little critter again. And if 2009 is any indicator we can expect not to see any real amount of flashbacks or angst. Remember the only reason we got childhood scenes in the prior film was to establish the characters.

I didn't have a problem with it in ST:2009. It was kept very minimal and only used to give a little bit of context to their upbringing. Unlike SGU, which spent entire episodes showing us someone with a 60's afro in the 90's or in some stupid dream sequence where two characters nobody cares about at all are finally together and happily every after.

 

[shavedape]

My thoughts exactly. It was for comic effect, but I hope not to see that little creature again. Also, we do not need any flashback scenes with earth or backstory at this time. I would be okay with a little angst from Spock from his home planet being destroyed, and even perhaps some more flirty stuff with Uhura. But frankly I wish he would dump her romantically by using some obscure Vulcan excuse. The last thing we need to see is Spock marrying Uhura. Simon Pegg is not a bad choice for Scotty IMO. The original TOS Scotty is the target, and I think they came close enough. Dr McCoy is perfect. Just perfect, as is Uhura. Although the new Uhura comes off stronger and sexier and far more sophisticated than Nichols Uhura in TOS. Loving her and Chris Pine as Kirk.

I really do like Simon Pegg but maybe he didn't get enough screen time in the role to really sell it for me. Since it's such a huge cast and story that's understandable though. I don't think Scotty should be recast, I just hope Pegg grows into the role more. (And maybe I'm hanging onto Doohan's version of Scotty too much.)

And yes, the rest of the cast is near perfect. Quinto does a great job as Spock I think and the guy who does McCoy is spot on. They also nailed it with Chris Pine as Kirk, which was definitely a tricky role to cast.

 

[lady_maneth]

I found it almost eerie the way Pegg occasionally seemed to channel Doohan! Not all the time, but I found him truer to the original character than any of the others were, with the sole exception of Karl Urban as Bones.

I just hope they drop the Spock/Uhura romance in the next film, nothing believable in that at all...

 

[Bluce Ree]

I found it almost eerie the way Pegg occasionally seemed to channel Doohan! Not all the time, but I found him truer to the original character than any of the others were, with the sole exception of Karl Urban as Bones.

I just hope they drop the Spock/Uhura romance in the next film, nothing believable in that at all...

I liked that whole Spock / Uhura thing. We saw many hints of that in TOS, Uhura mildly flirting with Spock.

 

[Graybrew1]

I want to see Bones with someone. This actor is more than able to pull it off.

 

[Bluce Ree]

I want to see Bones with someone. This actor is more than able to pull it off.

You want to see boning on Star Trek? You dirty minded woman! How dare you attempt to sully the good, wholesome image of Star Trek?

 

[Graybrew1]

Bwhahahahahaha........good one.
I just think that actor was great in LOTR and is very complex.

 

[lady_maneth]

I like Karl Urban, both in LotR and in Trek. Bones is my favorite character in JJ Abrams' version, simply because he's IMO the best actor of the lot.

 

[EvilSpaceAlien]

I like Karl Urban, both in LotR and in Trek. Bones is my favorite character in JJ Abrams' version, simply because he's IMO the best actor of the lot.

Eh, I wouldn't agree with you in saying that Urban is the best actor of the new Trek cast. He's certainly one of the best, but I like Zachary Quinto more.

 

[shavedape]

Good casting all around except for the Yelchin thing (I can live with Simon Pegg as Scotty as he's so good generally).

 

[Graybrew1]

Eh, I wouldn't agree with you in saying that Urban is the best actor of the new Trek cast. He's certainly one of the best, but I like Zachary Quinto more.

I agree, I think he did an awesome job. He really brought something different and special to the role.

 

[Joelist]

Quinto was really good as Spock. Urban as McCoy had the character nailed so exactly it was like he was channeling DeForrest Kelley.

 

[Overmind One]

Quinto was really good as Spock. Urban as McCoy had the character nailed so exactly it was like he was channeling DeForrest Kelley.

Urban is the most closely matched cast member of the new crew. The new Spock is much less Vulcan than his predecessor. In fact, the Vulcans are much less austere than the original Vulcans. That is ALMOST okay, but this shipping thing with Uhura, whilst titillating, is very un-Vulcan. What is the point of Pon Far if Vulcans can have girlfriends and mess around between Pon Fars?

 

[shavedape]

Urban is the most closely matched cast member of the new crew. The new Spock is much less Vulcan than his predecessor. In fact, the Vulcans are much less austere than the original Vulcans. That is ALMOST okay, but this shipping thing with Uhura, whilst titillating, is very un-Vulcan. What is the point of Pon Far if Vulcans can have girlfriends and mess around between Pon Fars?

Great point. I, too, was bothered by the lack of Vulcan austerity. Sure Spock is half human but is that what his issue is? Is it nature (genetics) or learned behavior (Vulcan culture) that makes a Vulcan so austere and logical and stoic? Both?

The whole Uhura romance thing smacks of being a vehicle to showcase Spocks war with himself.

 

[Joelist]

Spock in TOS really was not all that austere. He had emotional moments, and not just in the "Amok Time" episode. Add in that Spock is indeed half human and really his relationship as depicted was not that big a deal. Quinto got the role really right - mostly logical but you could sense the emotions underneath working to break through (and sometimes they did).

This Spock was a bit less under control for a good part of the film and a big reason was the destruction of Vulcan. And that makes perfect sense as Vulcans do indeed have emotions (and more powerful ones than humans according to TOS) - the difference is they train to suppress them .

 

[Overmind One]

Spock in TOS really was not all that austere. He had emotional moments, and not just in the "Amok Time" episode. Add in that Spock is indeed half human and really his relationship as depicted was not that big a deal. Quinto got the role really right - mostly logical but you could sense the emotions underneath working to break through (and sometimes they did).

They were "underneath"? From what I could see, Spock was THE most emotional character next to Kirk. Anger, sadness, revenge, it was all right there. In the first season of ST:TOS, Spock would smile from time to time. A teeth showing smile. Then, it became a sneer, and finally a raised eyebrow. But never did I feel that he was fighting to hold an emotional monster inside. Vulcans are not supposed to act in this fashion, according to everything established before it. Every Vulcan in Star Trek has had this austere quality. Except Quinto's Spock. Sarek had it the best of all Vulcans, including Spock.

This Spock was a bit less under control for a good part of the film and a big reason was the destruction of Vulcan. And that makes perfect sense as Vulcans do indeed have emotions (and more powerful ones than humans according to TOS) - the difference is they train to suppress them .

YES, and that is why he gets a pass. But the Uhura thing evidently was going on long before Spock started serving on the Enterprise. That one needs explaining.

 

[Joelist]

Actually they did have Spock pre-destruction being much less "emotional" than post-destruction. And when we got late in the film he was more controlled again. Let's not forget the Vulcan character as described in TOS - Vulcans are highly and powerfully emotional and nearly wiped themselves out through that. Their embrace of logic and meditative arts (teachings of Surak for example) was in large part to bury those strong emotions. Usually it works but there are times (Pon Farr, really extreme duress) when they can come out.

 

[Bluce Ree]

I'm rewatching Star Trek 2009. Did it occur to anyone else that the opening scene was pointless and made no sense? First, even if the autopilot is "damaged" (uh-huh, a subroutine, a few lines of code, has been damaged), all Kirk Sr. needed to do was aim the ship, thrusters at full and leave. It's space, the ship won't drift from its trajectory. Second, the last shuttle could have simply beamed him off just before impact.

*sigh*