Sanctuary Ratings Discussion

THX1138

THX1138

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Joelist said:
SGU ratings were bad in Season 1 when it was a Friday show. Season 2 it started on Tuesdays (usually not a bad ratings night for SyFy) but they fell further resulting in cancellation. Hence they sent it to Mondays to run its episodes out.

Sanctuary on the other hand was performing well in its timeslot. Then they suddenly moved both its day and its time (1 hour earlier) and the ratings drop was immediate, so it correlates directly. They also split the season into two halves and let a long time elapse between them. The result was that the second half of season three came on then immediately got switched without any real advertising - this has made the episodes feel unrooted because the immediacy of the prior episodes is missing.
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Sanctuary has been airing at the same time of 10pm EST.
 
YoshiKart64

YoshiKart64

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Gatefan1976 said:
Here's the thing though, they are trying to build a monday lineup for themselves with products that don't matter when they air. SGU was already axed and Sancutuary has already been renewed. I actually think it is a good idea, despite the ratings.
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Don't stay complacent though. The cheap reality show that replaced Sanctuary saw a massive boost when placed after wrestling, it's previous home being the one Sanctuary is in now. That suggests the Wrestling was keeping it afloat. Also how many shows have you seen regain the kind of numbers that Sanctuary has lost? It really did shed a large number of people.

So yeh I'm concerned for its Season 5 chances already, especially considering the reduced episode order they gave this time around...:(
 
THX1138

THX1138

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YoshiKart64 said:
Don't stay complacent though. The cheap reality show that replaced Sanctuary saw a massive boost when placed after wrestling, it's previous home being the one Sanctuary is in now. That suggests the Wrestling was keeping it afloat. Also how many shows have you seen regain the kind of numbers that Sanctuary has lost? It really did shed a large number of people.

So yeh I'm concerned for its Season 5 chances already, especially considering the reduced episode order they gave this time around...:(
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It would only suggest wrestling was keeping it afloat if one totally ignored the ratings Sanctuary was getting before wrestling turned up :rolleyes: If Sanctuary was getting a huge feed from wrestling then Syfy wouldn't have moved it.

People should stop reading anything negative into Sanctuary getting a 13 episode order because Eureka got one too; you're not going to try and tell us we should be worried about Eureka too?
 
YoshiKart64

YoshiKart64

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THX1138 said:
It would only suggest wrestling was keeping it afloat if one totally ignored the ratings Sanctuary was getting before wrestling turned up :rolleyes: If Sanctuary was getting a huge feed from wrestling then Syfy wouldn't have moved it.

People should stop reading anything negative into Sanctuary getting a 13 episode order because Eureka got one too; you're not going to try and tell us we should be worried about Eureka too?
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If Wrestling played only a minor part in its ratings you'd expect it to have maintained numbers at least higher than SGU. As for the bolded part - how would they know? They moved it and the ratings tumbled dramatically, going way below the cancelled show it had as a lead in.

I'm a fan of Sanctuary and would like nothing more than to see it do well; but right now the numbers look bad, there's no two ways around it.
 
Mr. A

Mr. A

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YoshiKart64 said:
Just out of interest do the sunday cable ratings get released at the same time as the monday ones? I'm interested to see how Law and Order: CI did.
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They get posted earlier. I'll see if I can dig that up for you...

ETA: Sorry, couldn't find them :(
 
Gatefan1976

Gatefan1976

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YoshiKart64 said:
Don't stay complacent though. The cheap reality show that replaced Sanctuary saw a massive boost when placed after wrestling, it's previous home being the one Sanctuary is in now. That suggests the Wrestling was keeping it afloat. Also how many shows have you seen regain the kind of numbers that Sanctuary has lost? It really did shed a large number of people.

So yeh I'm concerned for its Season 5 chances already, especially considering the reduced episode order they gave this time around...:(
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Here's the thing though yoshi, check this out:

Live + 7's for the April 25th episodes of SGU and Sanctuary:

SGU:
Total Viewers: 1.55 million (up from 1.09)
HH Rtg: 1.05 (up from .7)
A18-49 Rtg: .7 (up from .4)

Sanctuary:
Total Viewers: 1.50 million (up from 0.87)
HH Rtg: 1.0 (up from .6)
A18-49 Rtg: 0.5 (up from .2)

To my mind, that indicates that Sanctuary isn't really losing overall viewers (or not enough to really worry about)

As to the 13 ep season for S4
I think that will actually help Sanctuary rather than hinder it. What have people been complaining about the most about Sanctuary lately, silly filler eps. A 13 ep season sorta precludes too much faff, simply because you don't have the time to do them. In all honesty, I think Syfy shold look long and hard and converting from the 20-26 episode format to the tighter 13 ep format. 13 eps is exactly 1/4 of a year and allows for 4 shows per year to make the most of plum spots. It also gets rid of the split season stigma that has been dogging them of late with some fans and requires tighter writing from it's shows (something EVERY show is guilty of at some point is faff).

Oh, I forgot, Urban legends is starting to tank hard already on the friday spot. It's all well and good to have SD as a massive lead in true, but if the WWE fans change channels afterwards, it doesn't much matter does it?
 
THX1138

THX1138

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YoshiKart64 said:
If Wrestling played only a minor part in its ratings you'd expect it to have maintained numbers at least higher than SGU. As for the bolded part - how would they know? They moved it and the ratings tumbled dramatically, going way below the cancelled show it had as a lead in.

I'm a fan of Sanctuary and would like nothing more than to see it do well; but right now the numbers look bad, there's no two ways around it.
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How would they know? They get detailed ratings that's how.

Before wrestling was it's lead in Sanctuary averaged 1,533,583 million viewers in Season 2 usually pulling in between 1.3 to 1.6 million. In Season 3.0 with wrestling as a lead in Sanctuary averaged 1,457,500 million viewers usually pulling in 1.3 to 1.5 million viewers. Are you going to try to tell us that a show with a very stable audience through it's first 2 seasons suddenly lost the majority of it's audience and then wrestling started providing that missing audience???

If you look at the ratings for all the scripted shows put on after wrestling you will see that they did not appear to be influenced by the wrestling audience and in fact the numbers for the shows often moved in different directions suggesting very little cross over audience.

If you want to try analysing data you need to look at all the data not just a select portion that appears to supports your opinion.
 
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THX1138 said:
How would they know? They get detailed ratings that's how.

Before wrestling was it's lead in Sanctuary averaged 1,533,583 million viewers in Season 2 usually pulling in between 1.3 to 1.6 million. In Season 3.0 with wrestling as a lead in Sanctuary averaged 1,457,500 million viewers usually pulling in 1.3 to 1.5 million viewers. Are you going to try to tell us that a show with a very stable audience through it's first 2 seasons suddenly lost the majority of it's audience and then wrestling started providing that missing audience???

If you look at the ratings for all the scripted shows put on after wrestling you will see that they did not appear to be influenced by the wrestling audience and in fact the numbers for the shows often moved in different directions suggesting very little cross over audience.

If you want to try analysing data you need to look at all the data not just a select portion that appears to supports your opinion.
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And with two crystal balls, I would listen to you when YOU talk numbers. :P :biggrin:

And looking at this week's, if your right again, I lose again. Oh well. LOL
 
Gatefan1976

Gatefan1976

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We have been looking but....

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Joelist

Joelist

What ship is this?
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Graybrew1 said:
All Hail Spaceballs, the movie with neverending one liners. :biggrin:
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Indeed. This film and "The Princess Bride" are one liner gold mines.
 
shavedape

shavedape

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So what's with the lack of Sanctuary ratings yet???
 
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