Ratings II

[johnsheppard]

To be honest, I am not laughing. I am beyond ticked off that SGA was cancelled for this. SGA in it's last 10 eps went up to almost 1.7 Million viewers Live+SD. That is more than 700,000 viewers now comparing the averages of the final 10 to date. Very sad the franchise has to end like this.

And SGA was already cancelled and ppl kept watching it.Not the same move with sgu.

 

[McSheppard]

And SGA was already cancelled and ppl kept watching it.Not the same move with sgu.

Yes, I was having a discussion with Cimmer at Syfy about why that is so for SGU.

 

[Rac80]

I agree with this. Its only the end of Brad Wright's Stargate franchise, not the end of Stargate. In a way I am very glad that Brad is being shoved out, because he obviously wont leave on his own. I think we will have to wait a few years, but Stargate WILL return, and any new writers will remember the hard lesson of SGU: DONT ignore your fanbase .

And don't piss them off...they will ignore you and then your show is flushed!

Enterprise was doomed from the start with the Star Trek purists because, as a prequel in a VERY well defined canon, it had no room for original development without violating that canon. So its alienating the purists was inevitable (which is not a rap on purists just noting the corner they were backed into).

That said, I liked season one the best. Season three was a disaster, and season four was pretty much trying to patch the series into canon. Ironically had they set it in a parallel universe or simply not had it be "Trek" it likely would have fared better. And now of course (in a pretty clever piece of writing) ST 09 has basically done what had to be done - the original canon is preserved as a separate timeline and the movie is in a new timeline where they can develop things without harming canon.

I enjoyed ENT a great deal despite the fact I am a trekkie from the 60's. As a history hobbyist, I saw the differences between TOS canon and ENT as a factor of time. The first ep...to mel meeting a klingon on Earth would have been Top Secret and not have made it into "common knowledge" in the future. The "common knowledge" of the past of the USA is terribly in error even for things as recent as 1901. so it really didn't bother me. I enjoyed the idea of the Romulans working behind the scenes, especially with the Vulcans.

During the Great Depression movie ticket sales skyrocketed (they didn't have TV back then) because, being miserable, people sought escape from their troubles in fictional worlds. Technology may have changed but humans are still the same in their preferences and needs.

With people being displaced by a lousy economy and seeing devastation in other countries and simply being depressed it stands to reason that a good, escapist show would do well in the ratings. It's more than telling that SGU is dropping like a stone in such troubling times.

The hottest star of the 30's was Shirley Temple... a cute happy child that always had happily ever afters in her movies. the hey day of the "screwball" comedy was the 30's...by the end of the depression the comedy was declared "dead" by critics. yeah I know - I have a head full of useless info!

 

[Snowdragonx]

Wow,

I really didn't think the rating could go this low, this should not surprise me anymore. It's the reation after the rating news that make me shake my head. All those excuse people keep throwing left and right it unbelievable. Don't they understand that which ever night they play the show it will always be facing stiff competition.

For the people that think the rating don't matter anymore, man are you wrong. I have seen cancel show going up in rating or being kept steady. I really think casual viewer are not interrested anymore. The fan might think these are the best episode ever and that they are going out in a bang, when in reality there going out in a whimper.

Quelle surprise!

 

[johnsheppard]

I disagree, with the end of Universe ends the soapy version and lets the start of proper Stargate we all know and love. Proper Stargate has a great profitable track record and tptb at syfy know this.

I agree with this. Its only the end of Brad Wright's Stargate franchise, not the end of Stargate. In a way I am very glad that Brad is being shoved out, because he obviously wont leave on his own. I think we will have to wait a few years, but Stargate WILL return, and any new writers will remember the hard lesson of SGU: DONT ignore your fanbase.

I agree

Maybe a break is due, abstinent makes the heart grow fonder, either that or ptb will wait till all the showrunners wonder off or find new projects. Brad and his team have stated they were tired of writing SG and wanted to do Universe, give it some time then syfy can bring in a fresh new team.

Maybe tired but they don't write for themselves but rather for their viewers and fan base.Without them they are nothing and sgu just showed this us.

I don't think the entire team was tired. Joe M, Paul M and even RCC are moving onto a series that is more action, faster paced, and filled with comic relief.......................pretty much what SGA and SG-1 were, lol.

I agree BW and RCC left SGA since the third season and left the reigns at JM and PM.Despite I think of JM I think he did a good job on season4 and 5 and the rates proved that.SGA rates were up for the 2 last seasons.Despite what some thought and some weak eps I thought season4 and 5 were more accomplished and SGA cast saved and improved the weak ones.Sadly on sgu the cast was not enough good to improve weak script weak characters being not appealling at all for a big part of SG audience.

BTW thx for the green.

 

[Mr. A]

I agree BW and RCC left SGA since the third season and left the reigns at JM and PM.Despite I think of JM I think he did a good job on season4 and 5 and the rates proved that.SGA rates were up for the 2 last seasons.Despite what some thought and some weak eps I thought season4 and 5 were more accomplished and SGA cast saved and improved the weak ones.

You're just a huge McKay fan...

 

[Gatefan1976]

You're just a huge McKay fan...

Doesn't change the fact that the ratings for S4-5 SGA did go up though. I posted a similar idea on GW. No matter what the "hardcore online fans" thought of the whole Mckeller stuff, you can't deny that the ratings were rising. S-4/5 were a bit darker on the whole than S1-3, and I think that helped SGA. Darker can work, but you have to care about the characters first.

 

[johnsheppard]

You're just a huge McKay fan...

Who remember his name Meredith.No in my memory it's John.
I always called season3 as Mackay season but my fav ep are the ones where John is in.I zapped all scenes with Meredith except the ones where JoeF is in. He improves them si much.:shepsalute:

 

[johnsheppard]

Doesn't change the fact that the ratings for S4-5 SGA did go up though. I posted a similar idea on GW. No matter what the "hardcore online fans" thought of the whole Mckeller stuff, you can't deny that the ratings were rising. S-4/5 were a bit darker on the whole than S1-3, and I think that helped SGA. Darker can work, but you have to care about the characters first.

Especially when some humor is added and driven by a good appealling cast and characters connected to the audience.

 

[Mr. A]

Doesn't change the fact that the ratings for S4-5 SGA did go up though. I posted a similar idea on GW. No matter what the "hardcore online fans" thought of the whole Mckeller stuff, you can't deny that the ratings were rising. S-4/5 were a bit darker on the whole than S1-3, and I think that helped SGA. Darker can work, but you have to care about the characters first.

I was just teasing JS, obviously a big Joe Flanigan fan. But I agree with you. The reason the ratings rose for S4 and S5 was because they were writing some very good episodes! However, they did make some bad character development decisions such as killing Carson and Weir and yes, McKeller. Does that prove that people liked McKeller & Co? The question remaining to be answered would therefore be: what would the ratings have looked like if they didn't make those bad decisions?
I believe they would have been even higher. :beckettu:

 

[Hyndara]

I was just teasing JS, obviously a big Joe Flanigan fan. But I agree with you. The reason the ratings rose for S4 and S5 was because they were writing some very good episodes! However, they did make some bad character development decisions such as killing Carson and Weir and yes, McKeller. Does that prove that people liked McKeller & Co? The question remaining to be answered would therefore be: what would the ratings have looked like if they didn't make those bad decisions?
I believe they would have been even higher. :beckettu:

Good question ... mh, I would think a way higher than the current ones .

 

[Hyndara]

And the party goes on - German ratings:

episode number - overall viewers - 14-49 years - MA
2.03 - 0.84 Mill. - 0.57 Mill. - 4,4 %
2.04 - 0.77 Mill. - 0.55 Mill. - 4,3 %

 

[Tropicana]

Looking like German ratings for SGU are on course; plus I love how it sorta runs parallel to the U.S ratings.

 

[Tripler]

When do I get my new CAR !!!

But Tripler wins, at his 825,000 prediction.

 

[mzzz]

Here you go:

Bob Barker voice: A brand new caaaar!!!

 

[Overmind One]

But wait, there's moooore!

Here you go:

Bob Barker voice: A brand new caaaar!!!

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[mzzz]

Times like these where I wish I had a tank and could go around flattening all those fancy cars that people have, and especially those cars in every car commercial, yes everyone, hate commercials. And those loud subwoofer cars, I mean seriously, why? Overcompensation?

 

[Tripler]

Times like these where I wish I had a tank and could go around flattening all those fancy cars that people have, and especially those cars in every car commercial, yes everyone, hate commercials. And those loud subwoofer cars, I mean seriously, why? Overcompensation?

I agree completely!!! and thanks for those lovely cars guys !!!

 

[Mr. A]

Just visit the ratings prediction thread

 

[mzzz]

Just visit the ratings prediction thread

No. Sorry just disagreeing to disagree. And oh yeah, your mom wears combat boots....so there.