calibos,
Welcome to the forum. It’s nice to have a little infusion of opposing viewpoint every now and then.
Thanks, it's part of the reason I arrived.
I participate on other SGU sites where, big surprise, the vast majority of folks are wholly supportive of it.
Upon learning of SGUS I was puzzled and eager to see some opposing viewpoints.
I’m not going to rehash the discussion that you’ve already had thus far but I do want to clarify a few things.
• The reason that so many of us speak about the lack of realism with SGU is because Malozzi, Wright, Cooper, many posters at Gateworld and many posters at Syfy have told us, time and time again, how realistic SGU is. Thus, this has become a very large point of contention with many of us. If, being someone that likes SGU, you are able to see (and admit) that it is not realistic then you’ve earned some points in my book.
Well, taking a step back it's a sci fi show, a militaristic sci fi show.
Big scheme of things it's a show about a wormhole that can take folks milllllllllions of miles away to planets that, amazingly, look like Vancouver BC where aliens who, oddly enough, speak english and...
Well, you get the point.
It's not realistic. It's tv.
It's an attempt to BE more 'realistic' but whether or not it's been successful I can't say.
They're on a spaceship. It's darker, 'grittier', whatever...but it's not realistic.
I like it but, nope, not realistic.
If they're saying that I'd have to disagree with them.
• When many people state that SGU is not Stargate they are speaking much more on a philosophical/emotional level than they are on a strictly material one (although for many the material aspects come into play as well). Too often any discussion on this topic immediately goes to the material and everything becomes about the use of the stargate, about technologies, etc while the philosophical is completely left on the roadside. Personally, I don’t care if something retains the fundamental ‘feel’ of its predecessor shows, I only care that it is well done. This is why I don’t like SGU, because it is very poorly crafted, especially the writing.
• While being radically different from its predecessors isn’t necessarily a bad thing it is also not necessarily a good thing either. Perhaps I’m misinterpreting your meaning, but the number of times you’ve touched upon this it seems like you’re saying that because these other shows were different from their source material and were good then so is SGU?
What I'm getting at and trying to convey is 'You cannot be ashamed of your history'.
Whether we like it (like me!) or hate it (like you!) it's a part of the franchise.
You don't have to like it but, goddammit, there was a Stargate cartoon called Stargate Infinity that is a part of the franchise.
I hated it but Voyager is a part of Star Trek.
No one is saying that people have to like SGU....but they DO have to accept that, for good or ill, this IS where the franchise is at now.
And for a lot of folks who have not been around for 15+ years of SG this is their introduction. For those folks this IS Stargate.
My introduction was through the film. For others it was SG1. For others it was SGA and for some poor souls it was SG: Infinity.
All of it is a part of the overall tapestry that is SG.
The first two items may aid you in better understanding where a lot of us are coming from on those issues. The third item is just to keep things in balanced perspective.
Again, welcome to the forum. I hope that you find some satisfying discussion/debate.
Regards,
Dave
Many thanks. Looking forward to it.
I don't mind your ageist commments...but be warned...I will not change your diapers when the "big kids" are mean to you and you piss your pants! 
