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general grievous

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I think he handled that quite well. Im not sure what caused the tweeter to send that tweet to BJS but he has the right to ask them politley to not do that.

I think hes begining to catch on about what he and the rest of the actors ptb say. this reply i have no problem with (even the ickle dig at haters) if he had gone down previous "retard" routes then no.

I agree, I think his reply was actually ok. All he's saying is basically 'please don't ruin the positive spirit of my blog, it's not my fault that SGU sucks'. That's fair enough. And we can't except him to actually LIKE the show haters, especially not in public. Gotta be realistic here.
 

general grievous

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Well hopefully he will by the end of SGU, and takes that knowledge with him to his next acting job. These are important life lessons and one day, years from now he'll say - "Oh my first major breakthrough role was a bitch, but it taught me a lot about dealing with fans and I'm grateful for that."

Yep. This experience has probably forced him to grow up because he was surely acting like a baby at the beginning!
 

MetalFoldingChair

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I agree, I think his reply was actually ok. All he's saying is basically 'please don't ruin the positive spirit of my blog, it's not my fault that SGU sucks'. That's fair enough. And we can't except him to actually LIKE the show haters, especially not in public. Gotta be realistic here.

It may seem like I'm dissecting this too much but I'm really not. BJS is being extremely disingenuous here and I'm kind of surprised so many people are falling for it. Yes, the start of his little essay sounds reasonable and polite and actually quite literate. It reads like he is sincere about keeping things civil and positive in his little corner of fandom but then he reveals his true nature. Consider these gems:

This twitter account was set up in the spirit of celebration - it's a place where folks can drop by and get to know me a bit and can follow the progress of a show they've taken an active interest in. They can get a sense of what an actor's life is like. I love interacting with the fans and even sharing pics of my dog. It's a place to have fun and be positive.

This is a lie. For a twitter account that was set up in the spirit of celebration and positivity he certainly has used that account to be negative and anything but celebratory -- unless of course he meant celebrating "troll hunting" (his term) which one can only assume means he was looking for arguments and cyber conflict. As I understand it he has tweeted some negative stuff towards Joe Flannigan and SGA/SG1. I'm sure someone here will correct me if I'm wrong and I welcome that correction, but I don't think I'm too far off base. Bottom line regarding BJS twitter account is that it isn't the cyber bastion of sweetness and light that he just claimed it to be. He's a liar, pure and simple.

"No offense but it just ain't Stargate"? Honey, there's no way to politely spit in someone's face.

Oh please! He's as overly dramatic in his personal life as he is in front of the camera. This chick didn't spit in his face and if he finds such a benign (and honest) comment about SGU to be so horrendously offensive then he should never leave his apartment as the world is a harsh place and he will be offended the second he walks out the door. This was hardly vicious as insults go, which just proves his shock and cries of being a victim are disingenuous. At the very least he needs to grow a pair and man up. He sounds like a Victorian era woman with a case of the vapors, oh Heaven forfend!

You're lucky this isn't a tailgate party - I'm a Cowboy's fan and we'd do a lot more than just tell you to get lost.

This line is the coup de grace and I don't see how you, or anyone, can find his reply "ok". Nowhere in this chick's tweet/message to BJS did she say or imply he should get his ass kicked yet he has no problem implying this to her. He reveals himself to be a bully (and also horribly insecure) by saying such a thing, to a woman no less. His mother clearly did a great job raising him, that's obvious. (Since people are too oblivious to understand things here let me clarify: that last line was sarcasm.)

I would have no problem with BJS if he wasn't such an obvious liar, bully and crybaby thug. There are plenty of actors on SGU that I don't care for but I don't feel the need to say anything about them because they conduct themselves in a professional manner. BJS, not so much. If he ever offers a genuine, sincere mea culpa and/or keeps his yap shut and doesn't sandwich lies, threats and insults into his public messages then I will no longer have a problem with him. Until then he can suck a bag of dicks. Nuff said.
 

general grievous

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^ Well yeah, I guess I didn't read that much into it, you do have a point. Basically the guy acts like a little kid given a stage. I guess he does have a lot of growing up to do. Funny that a dude at his position and also quite good looking (I'm sure he has his girlie fanbase) is so insecure and fussy.
 

Fizz

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"No offense but it just ain't Stargate"? Honey, there's no way to politely spit in someone's face.

And from what he's said in interviews he himself clearly has a thing about being too good Stargate/Sci-fi in general and wishes his Juilliard trained ass was on stage in NY or at least on an arthouse show on AMC. Nothing wrong with wanting to do that or being upset when people tell you your show sucks to your "face", but I've read several interviews with him where it's clear he hates the idea of being on sci-fi show and can't even mention the word "aliens", so he clearly doesn't think it's "Stargate" either.
 

MetalFoldingChair

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And from what he's said in interviews he himself clearly has a thing about being too good Stargate/Sci-fi in general and wishes his Juilliard trained ass was on stage in NY or at least on an arthouse show on AMC. Nothing wrong with wanting to do that or being upset when people tell you your show sucks to your "face", but I've read several interviews with him where it's clear he hates the idea of being on sci-fi show and can't even mention the word "aliens", so he clearly doesn't think it's "Stargate" either.

BJS reminds me of that character from "Galaxy Quest" played by Alan Rickman, "Sir Alexander Dane" who was a Shakespearian trained actor who loathed being known for playing a character on a sci-fi show ala "Star Trek". The character's arrogance, egotism and pomposity was hilarious because it was fictional, but BJS shows many of the same traits and that isn't funny, it's sad. Hopefully the boy will pull his head out of his ass one of these days.
 

Gatefan1976

Well Known GateFan
Ya know......

This is another great example of why I get a chuckle out of being told I'm not "deep enough" to get SGU by some Squeedrones. So many people just assume they are incredibly bright and insightful being able to see the "secondary message" in things and not just take things at face value without ever realising that nearly all forms of communication exist on 3 or more levels at any given time (even when the person speaking/writing is not aware of it themselves). I'm sure anyone here who has studied Psychology either formally or informally would agree with me (and TBH, even those of us here who haven't tend to show the ability to realise this anyway by virtue of thier own life experiences)
 

Gatefan1976

Well Known GateFan
the only secondary message in SGU is that its writers suck at writing drama.

Oh, I'm not 100% sold on that. What I find to be thier real problem is that while they can create dramatic situations (not esp. well, granted) they can't follow through with them either due to lack of abillity, lack of understanding or it being "out of classification"
Take "cloverfield" & "trial and error", specificly Chloe & Scott.
In Cloverfield they set up the "blood bond" between the two of them (which did have some nice imagery imho), but in the next ep Scott's response to losing his "juliet" is "what did you do", followed by a punch to Young in the face. I don't know about you, but if I was "Romeo" and someone just spaced my "Juliet", I would have reacted in a much different way (much less controlled if ya get my drift :) )
What's even worse is between the 2 eps, TPTB hit that magic reset button, again, and we saw Chloe go from the "willing to risk her life Heroine" back to the whiny pathetic bint she has been for most of the series, and Scott being the lip pursing doubting Thomas he seems to fall back on.
 

Fizz

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BJS reminds me of that character from "Galaxy Quest" played by Alan Rickman, "Sir Alexander Dane" who was a Shakespearian trained actor who loathed being known for playing a character on a sci-fi show ala "Star Trek". The character's arrogance, egotism and pomposity was hilarious because it was fictional, but BJS shows many of the same traits and that isn't funny, it's sad. Hopefully the boy will pull his head out of his ass one of these days.

Hah, yeah, I was thinking of Galaxy Quest when I wrote the post. Now I'm sure a lot of actors from any different types of TV show are like that, but most have a more tactful way of dealing with it. But this is his first big role and I hope this entire experience with SGU is a great learning curve for him in future fandom stuff. And I reserve the right to laugh like hell when he pays the bills by appearing in MegaSnake vs DinoShark 3.

As for Sir Patrick Stewart, I don't know a huge amount about TNG or what he felt about it at the time, but I've heard him speak about his career in person and he seemed genuinely fond and kinda amused by the role in a good way.
 

Gatefan1976

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Hah, yeah, I was thinking of Galaxy Quest when I wrote the post. Now I'm sure a lot of actors from any different types of TV show are like that, but most have a more tactful way of dealing with it. But this is his first big role and I hope this entire experience with SGU is a great learning curve for him in future fandom stuff. And I reserve the right to laugh like hell when he pays the bills by appearing in MegaSnake vs DinoShark 3.

Strangely, I don't think your alone in that thought:rotflmao:
Fizz said:
As for Sir Patrick Stewart, I don't know a huge amount about TNG or what he felt about it at the time, but I've heard him speak about his career in person and he seemed genuinely fond and kinda amused by the role in a good way.

IIRC, PS thought TNG would fail so badly that he didn't even unpack his belongings for a few months(?) :)
More telling however is a story he tells about the first time he saw Red Dwarf on TV. Apparently he saw an ep of Dwarf and was initially so incensed that someone was "ripping of HIS show" that he was going to call his agent to get it cancelled/sued. He then actually sat down and watched the show and realised it was a comedy and not a rip on TNG at all.
I don't know if the interview is on the net anywhere, but it is an enlightening view into the man.
 

SexyDexy

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Good looking???

^ Well yeah, I guess I didn't read that much into it, you do have a point. Basically the guy acts like a little kid given a stage. I guess he does have a lot of growing up to do. Funny that a dude at his position and also quite good looking (I'm sure he has his girlie fanbase) is so insecure and fussy.

I don't know how big his girlie fanbase really is. Maybe some people find him attractive but not me! He looks like a little boy - not attractive in the least :puke: Heck I find Robert Carlyle (as Dr. Rush!) more attractive than BJS. Of course neither of them comes near the level of hotness of say, Momoa or Flanigan, or any of the other sexy men on SG-1 and SGA.
 

MetalFoldingChair

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Hah, yeah, I was thinking of Galaxy Quest when I wrote the post. Now I'm sure a lot of actors from any different types of TV show are like that, but most have a more tactful way of dealing with it. But this is his first big role and I hope this entire experience with SGU is a great learning curve for him in future fandom stuff. And I reserve the right to laugh like hell when he pays the bills by appearing in MegaSnake vs DinoShark 3.

OMG, I never thought of that! I can just picture it now. Hilarious! :rotflmao:

As for Sir Patrick Stewart, I don't know a huge amount about TNG or what he felt about it at the time, but I've heard him speak about his career in person and he seemed genuinely fond and kinda amused by the role in a good way.

The character of Jean Luc Picard was a damn good one, well written and with lots of breadth. I think Patrick Stewart did a great job of making the character his own and did his best to not allow it to devolve into camp. Many people still make fun of William Shatner for his over acting and over emoting as Kirk in the original run of ST but Patrick Stewart seems to have been able to avoid tainting the character of Picard as a clown in the same type of role. (For what it's worth I think Shatner does a better Kirk in the movies) Plus Stewart seems to have been able to resume his career without the stigma of Jean Luc Picard haunting him so he probably doesn't have alot of animosity for the role. I don't mean to imply that Shatner despises Kirk, but it would seem that he was sort of known only for that particular role for many years after it ended.

As for BJS, well, it seems he's in no danger of being endlessly tied to the role of Scott as no one is watching the show anyway. And if at the end of his career in acting this role is what he's known for then I would truly feel sorry for the guy -- but not that sorry. ;)
 

general grievous

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I don't know how big his girlie fanbase really is. Maybe some people find him attractive but not me! He looks like a little boy - not attractive in the least :puke: Heck I find Robert Carlyle (as Dr. Rush!) more attractive than BJS. Of course neither of them comes near the level of hotness of say, Momoa or Flanigan, or any of the other sexy men on SG-1 and SGA.

Well, he's got good facial features and definitely spends his time at the gym. However I would agree that as you mentioned, the boyish look combined with the weak personality (lack of confidence does come across) can definitely be a deal killer.. :)
 

Hyndara

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I've read those interviews & was p'ed off at what he had to say, but he's very new to Stargate & therefore ignorant of its past and legacy. Brad Wright & JoeM on the other hand, are NOT. Those BJS interviews where he insults Stargate fans are, IMO, his parroting of TPTB's attitudes & opinions about SGU, the direction of the franchise,and its long-term fans. Therefore, my problem is with TPTB & not this youngling.

Call me stupid but I have a real problem with someone who plays a character in a SCIFI-show chatting about his hate of SCIFI. Okay, not his fault that he was casted. On the other hand ... why he went to the casting when he hates SciFi? Didn't he knew for what show this casting was? Ahm ... oookay ... maybe the open stage for American (Canadian) Idol was next door? Or the Shakespeare (by the way, I enjoy a good Shakespeare production) Society had another casting for "Hamlett" in the same building?

Sorry, when there is something I do not wish to do I will not do it.
 

Fizz

GateFans Noob
Call me stupid but I have a real problem with someone who plays a character in a SCIFI-show chatting about his hate of SCIFI. Okay, not his fault that he was casted. On the other hand ... why he went to the casting when he hates SciFi? Didn't he knew for what show this casting was? Ahm ... oookay ... maybe the open stage for American (Canadian) Idol was next door? Or the Shakespeare (by the way, I enjoy a good Shakespeare production) Society had another casting for "Hamlett" in the same building?

Sorry, when there is something I do not wish to do I will not do it.


I guess he was thinking it was better than bartending, which is what he was doing at the time of his audition, IIRC. Plus at the time the producers and everyone were thinking it was supposed to be the next huge cult thing and would open up a ton of doors in mainstream Hollywood and everywhere else like what has happened to the cast of BSG.

I don't think he's bad looking, but I don't really find him that attractive either, in fact all the guys are distinctly lacking compared to SG1/SGA
 

SexyDexy

GateFans Noob
That's gotta hurt!

It seems even SGU fans agree with you! :D
The thunk thread of Robert Carlyle on Gateworld is 412 pages long, the thunk thread of BJS only 125 pages long.

:lol: That's gotta hurt poor little Bwian's feelings. Scruffy old Rush gets 4 times the luv as - what did the audition sides say - "every teenage girl's dream?" :laughing: I know it's not nice to laugh at people...but he deserves it thanks to his attitude towards fans :laughing:
 

MetalFoldingChair

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I don't think he's bad looking, but I don't really find him that attractive either, in fact all the guys are distinctly lacking compared to SG1/SGA

BJS is what's called in gay parlance a "twink". Here's a definition from Urban Dictionary which I think describes him pretty well:

An attractive, boyish-looking, young gay man. The stereotypical twink is 18-22, slender with little or no body hair, often blonde, dresses in club wear even at 10:00 AM, and is not particularly intelligent. A twink is the gay answer to the blonde bimbo cheerleader.

I would only add that one doesn't have to be gay to be a twink. ;)

:rotflmao:
 

Pharos

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Call me stupid but I have a real problem with someone who plays a character in a SCIFI-show chatting about his hate of SCIFI. Okay, not his fault that he was casted. On the other hand ... why he went to the casting when he hates SciFi? Didn't he knew for what show this casting was? Ahm ... oookay ... maybe the open stage for American (Canadian) Idol was next door? Or the Shakespeare (by the way, I enjoy a good Shakespeare production) Society had another casting for "Hamlett" in the same building?

Sorry, when there is something I do not wish to do I will not do it.

He said in an interview once the show was likened to "Southland" to him, which drew his attention.
 
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