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Tropicana

Council Member
SGU's science (when it is actually used) is deeply rooted in the concept of pure mathematics, everything just boils down to an equation. Now that may be exactly how "real world" theoretical physics, quantum mechanics, chaos theory etc work, but in Scifi (generally), you don't want to see the mathematics behind the technology, you want to see the end result device and have some kind of believable "technobabble" to go with it.

There was a BTS interview on Scifi Aust. with Dave Hewlitt, and they asked him about the reams of "technospeak" for Mckay, and initially he said (to the Writers) "This is all just garbage, who want's to hear this". Thier response, "this isn't garbage, it's pure ratings gold".

Guess they forgot that :D
SGA used loads of deep mathematics too - u know those white boards; but they managed to incorporate that as the beginning as part of a sequence of events, then we get the creation or the obtaining of the tech, followed by the application with a brief explanation. Instead, here with SGU we're stuck in mathematics and it's like they are afraid to go beyond that and explain anything, they try to make it sound like they are so sophisticated by saying stuff like, "Oh, complex mathematics here" and keeping it "realz", when in actual fact, they don't bother explaining anything, and to me, it says "I'm the writer and I'm lazy, can't be arsed to explain, cos it's hurting my head". So we have SGU that has something like this for science-

"Can we shut the drive off, Rush?"
"My calculations says nooo".

And episodes filled with images of colour swirls to make the viewer think they are smart and intelligent. Colours, seriously? Valley girls in SoCal can do better, they can work out how much carbs they ate! And in worst case, how much to throw up.
 
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Stonelesscutter

Guest
SGA used loads of deep mathematics too - u know those white boards; but they managed to incorporate that as the beginning as part of a sequence of events, then we get the creation or the obtaining of the tech, followed by the application with a brief explanation. Instead, here with SGU we're stuck in mathematics and it's like they are afraid to go beyond that and explain anything, they try to make it sound like they are so sophisticated by saying stuff like, "Oh, complex mathematics here" and keeping it "realz", when in actual fact, they don't bother explaining anything, and to me, it says "I'm the writer and I'm lazy, can't be arsed to explain, cos it's hurting my head". So we have SGU that has something like this for science-

"Can we shut the drive off, Rush?"
"My calculations says nooo".


And episodes filled with images of colour swirls to make the viewer think they are smart and intelligent. Colours, seriously? Valley girls in SoCal can do better, they can work out how much carbs they ate! And in worst case, how much to throw up.

Can you give an example of how this conversation would be improved upon?
 

Tropicana

Council Member
It could go with -

"Can we shut the drive off, Rush?"
"Unfortunately not, we did some preliminary calculations based on the read outs from the display consoles, and they indicate that even if we shut off valves 1 to 17 from the starboard engine modules, the drive would continue to operate. The entire system has crashed in essence. The only thing I can think of is, a complete systemwide shutdown."
"Turn off then back on again?"
"Yeah"
 
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Stonelesscutter

Guest
It could go with -

"Can we shut the drive off, Rush?"
"Unfortunately not, we did some preliminary calculations based on the read outs from the display consoles, and they indicate that even if we shut off valves 1 to 17 from the starboard engine modules, the drive would continue to operate. The entire system has crashed in essence. The only thing I can think of is, a complete systemwide shutdown."
"Turn off then back on again?"
"Yeah"

Yeah but isn't that straight out of the book of Tropicana's Windows Computer Repair? :)
 

mzzz

Well Known GateFan
SGU's science (when it is actually used) is deeply rooted in the concept of pure mathematics, everything just boils down to an equation. Now that may be exactly how "real world" theoretical physics, quantum mechanics, chaos theory etc work, but in Scifi (generally), you don't want to see the mathematics behind the technology, you want to see the end result device and have some kind of believable "technobabble" to go with it.

There was a BTS interview on Scifi Aust. with Dave Hewlitt, and they asked him about the reams of "technospeak" for Mckay, and initially he said (to the Writers) "This is all just garbage, who want's to hear this". Thier response, "this isn't garbage, it's pure ratings gold".

Guess they forgot that :D

lol, the math is bs, I know, I do math. Chloe being a politics major would at most have done calculus I. Mathematical symbols in one culture won't translate to another culture. The whole downloading her with mathematical knowledge, the symbols would not translate, lol. Rush would have had to start all the way back at the basics to get proper translation or would have had to teach her Earth symbols. They treat everything with a level of mysticism like in some religious zealots that I detest. And Eli outsmarting 4+ years of science and engineering knowledge, yeah right.
 
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Graybrew1

Guest
Is it just me or has Syfy's forum been slower than dial up lately? :vala-newanime026:

Nobody there , hardly at all. Where are they all?
 

Briangate78

GateFans Noob
Is it just me or has Syfy's forum been slower than dial up lately? :vala-newanime026:

Nobody there , hardly at all. Where are they all?

Syfy.com forums have been getting slower because of those stupid videos. I asked to have them removed but likely won't happen.
 

Mr. A

Super Moderator +
Is it just me or has Syfy's forum been slower than dial up lately? :vala-newanime026:

Nobody there , hardly at all. Where are they all?

Syfy.com forums have been getting slower because of those stupid videos. I asked to have them removed but likely won't happen.
I had a lot of trouble accessing the forums last evening, but since I have JavaScript turned off it seemed more like technical problems than overloading due to the videos. Or maybe they were overloading the Syfy server?
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
Syfy.com forums have been getting slower because of those stupid videos. I asked to have them removed but likely won't happen.

Yeah, whats with the "auto play"? I can have Syfy open in a tab, and then I open a second tab for something else and the next thing I know there is some loud video playing. WTF? They need to turn that off and make it so the visitors can choose if it plays or not (by clicking it or not clicking it). And they slow the page load down by 50%
 
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Graybrew1

Guest
Syfy.com forums have been getting slower because of those stupid videos. I asked to have them removed but likely won't happen.

That makes sense. Hope they can at least fix the lag and get back some of the posters that seem to have gone.
 

Mr. A

Super Moderator +
That makes sense. Hope they can at least fix the lag and get back some of the posters that seem to have gone.
I think this is also a consequence of the current state of the Stargate franchise and SGU. People give up posting when they're not watching the show anymore and only a few faithful remain :(
 

mzzz

Well Known GateFan
I have adblock, so I just block the videos/promos/capitalism crap. I should get a syfy account, but there's almost nothing to watch so almost nothing to talk about! I watch Sanctuary and occasionally Warehouse 13, but they're not that great, well compared to sga and sg1. And never liked the new BSG, guess I'll check out the new one maybe but hopefully it's not too actiony.
 
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Graybrew1

Guest
I have adblock, so I just block the videos/promos/capitalism crap. I should get a syfy account, but there's almost nothing to watch so almost nothing to talk about! I watch Sanctuary and occasionally Warehouse 13, but they're not that great, well compared to sga and sg1. And never liked the new BSG, guess I'll check out the new one maybe but hopefully it's not too actiony.

I watch WH13,Eureka,BH,Sanctuary and will give B&C and Alphas a shot when they air. Other than SGU ending eps right now, the only show actually airing for me on Syfy is BH. Hopefully, all this too will pass. I miss Science Fiction. Most of my scifi fix right now is coming from the DVR I set up to find every ST and SG rerun it can find. :icon_cry:
 
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Backstep

Guest
I have the ad block plus running on FF, every time syfy changes the ads i just add it to the blocked list.

I hardly if ever go to the syfy forums basically because:
A) My stalker Mod.
B) To much censorship - You can only post in this little box if you do not like the show.
C) Gatefans has more active members on at any given time than syfy.
 
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Graybrew1

Guest
:cool: I like both forums. I have been over there since 12/10 and new to here. They seem different but both good.
 

Briangate78

GateFans Noob
I have the ad block plus running on FF, every time syfy changes the ads i just add it to the blocked list.

I hardly if ever go to the syfy forums basically because:
A) My stalker Mod.
B) To much censorship - You can only post in this little box if you do not like the show.
C) Gatefans has more active members on at any given time than syfy.

A.) In her defense she thinks you are someone else.
B.) Censorship really? Visit GW you'll see Censorship
C.) Gatefans is a place to let loose but with some control, but they do have "Flame Hell" if you really want to rant.
 

Illiterati

Council Member & Author
A.) C.) Gatefans is a place to let loose but with some control, but they do have "Flame Hell" if you really want to rant.
I like this option, and the way we have it set up now, the casual visitor isn't going to have access to it. There are some limits as to how profane one may get, but that's something that should be a no- brainer, anyway.

The main part of this board is a bit more heavily moderated, but the intent of that is to make things more friendly to the above-mentioned casual visitor, or your most tetchy relative, if you will, so they may visit without burning out their eyeballs. They don't need to see the more...salty...content if it bothers them.

I think that makes for a much better board
 
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