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Graybrew1
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I love this show too, but I avoided all the previews. This year I am going in right from last year.
Bluce you caught all these promos? i completly missed em and just watched em and my ipression is that s5 is considerably darker in tone compared to s1-4 is it just me or would you agree? or should i dismiss it as a feeling i only get as the promos are cut that way?
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also fun to see clay as the frail week old man with oxygen cans
godamnit tuesday is far to long to wait for answers...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
indeed tho we'd run the risk of "oversleeping" and missing it completly and you lucky bastartd you'll get to see it atleast an hour or 2 before me maybe more depending on my sleeping rythm come next weekYou and me both, bro! The impatience almost leads one to think inducing a coma until the premiere might not be a bad idea to alleviate the anxiety and make time pass instantly.
to true i tend not to aswell but i saw last seasons promos and they had a diffrnet feel to them overall and these ones for s5 just feel darker i donno.. guess we'll find out, and yes bout clay who can forget Unser's wounded animal comment last season?There's definitely going to be a sense of darkness in S5 at least because of Clay's continued involvement in the club after everything he's done to his own guys and his wife up to and including S4. As to whether the stories are going in a generally darker direction, I dunno. I try not to put too much stock in promos because they're always tooled to invoke the most curiosity possible, IMO.
I bet we're going to see a real contrast with Clay who's going to turn out to be just as dangerous in spite of his frail appearance with the oxygen canisters.
to true i tend not to aswell but i saw last seasons promos and they had a diffrnet feel to them overall and these ones for s5 just feel darker i donno.. guess we'll find out, and yes bout clay who can forget Unser's wounded animal comment last season?
same here, and i remember but was he being chased? to me it looked like gemma spooked him so he flew off the bridge but i do hope that was a dreamsequence as i dont want jax in a hospital bed either for season 6, but neat theory the CIA thing.. but would the guys be like that? ie turn their backs on Jax for trying to keep the club alive so they dont "RICO" every son in every state per suggested in by the A-USA s4? also related to "RICO" where the F did that threat come from? ie "RICO" the WHOLE club as in EVERY MEMBER in the US? hasnt the ATF been trying to do that for over 30 years to REAL MC's but have never gotten more then say 10-15 members convicted at any one time? basicly the chapter/charter they were targeting at the time but not the "organisation" as a whole? i just found those threats stupid in S4 as they havnt managed that in reality sofar so i just dont buy that as a huge threat and every "biker" or otherwise in "the life" i know would give the guy his finger and just do the time..That has got me on the edge of my proverbial seat and anxious to see how his character is written this season. Which reminds me, you think maybe the promo where Jax is being chased and goes off the bridge has to do with them discovering he was working with the CIA rather than just a dream sequence? Personally, I'm hoping it's nothing but a dream sequence. I don't wanna see Jax spend S6 in a hospital bed.
same here, and i remember but was he being chased? to me it looked like gemma spooked him so he flew off the bridge but i do hope that was a dreamsequence as i dont want jax in a hospital bed either for season 6, but neat theory the CIA thing.. but would the guys be like that? ie turn their backs on Jax for trying to keep the club alive so they dont "RICO" every son in every state per suggested in by the A-USA s4? also related to "RICO" where the F did that threat come from? ie "RICO" the WHOLE club as in EVERY MEMBER in the US? hasnt the ATF been trying to do that for over 30 years to REAL MC's but have never gotten more then say 10-15 members convicted at any one time? basicly the chapter/charter they were targeting at the time but not the "organisation" as a whole? i just found those threats stupid in S4 as they havnt managed that in reality sofar so i just dont buy that as a huge threat and every "biker" or otherwise in "the life" i know would give the guy his finger and just do the time..
also something to considder is that SOA is basicly hamlet as hinted several times in the show (the pilot fotr one where jax says "it isnt easy being king") and also stated by Sutter on sveral occasions, so if sutter means that and is somewhat true to hamlet one should be able to theorize some plot points using it as somewhat of a guide right?
true true it def would and yes but is Clay that smart? remember when te AB (arian brotherhood) had gemma raped? and the time came for vengeance? clay said he needed jax as it needed to be smart so is the clay character smart enough to be able to play his cards just right in order to play said fiddle? i donno maybe he is he managed to kill John in 92 but he had gemma and unser to help him then gemma being the driving force and brains behind that.. oh and there is another unanswered plot point we need answers to ie will jax find out gemma killed his dad and what else she is hiding?Well, on the chase sequence, whether he was being chased or was just coincidentally spooked by Gemma would greatly depend on what transpired prior to that scene. Maybe something happened that compromised the club with the CIA or maybe Clay played the club like a fiddle by manipulating the facts of the situation.
in the us there is RICO and its been used to try and do just that but has never managed to bring down the whole organisation or even really hurt it in anyway so wouldnt Sutter know this? i buy alot of the show as pretty realistic tho way way to fast paced compared to reality and more drama heavy but this thread in order to make Jax bend over and take it up the wazoo by these CIA cartell guys? naw dont buy it...They've tried in Canada to lump the entire HA club together for the actions of a single group. It would take some really whacked out law that holds every member of a club in all chapters responsible for the actions of one or more of its members. Such a law, I imagine, would violate a plethora of human rights, including free speech.