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SciphonicStranger

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I liked season one so much that I soldiered through every episode until the end of the series. Got a little lost at times (certainly during the great Anders information dump) but it was watchable enough for me. :)

Oh, and WELCOME ArwenOfTrek!

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Graybrew1

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Wecome Indeed. :thoranime12:

And please feel free to ignore any comments from our members that are posted merely to incite more negativity than valid and thoughtful debates. I know I will.
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan
Hi everyone,

Yongjin invited me here from SyFy. I am fairly new there too, as I didn't start watching Battlestar Galactica until it was over via Netflix, but did instantly fall in love with the show and wished I'd seen it as it aired... I haven't watched much StarGate yet - only season 1 of SG-1 so far, but am working on it (though I have gotten sidetracked and started watching Heroes on my Netflix). My dad & sister both LOVE Stargate, so I decided to give it a try. It's pretty good so far, but I prefer Battlestar - at least so far (can't make any definitive judgments until after I've seen them all; after all, until I had FINISHED BSG, I preferred Deep Space 9)...

So, I guess, since Yongjin asked me to, I will say some of the reasons I like BSG.

I am not a big battle sequence/action fan, really. So, the drama and character development were AWESOME for me.

I LOVE Science Fiction, but not because of the action element (though that's how I can get my husband to watch it with me). I like science fiction, because it lets you explore the realm of IF - it requires great imagination. But, beyond that, it allows you to explore political/social things in a second-hand way that is not as personal. BattleStar Galactica DEFINITELY did this, and that is one of the main reasons I REALLY, REALLY enjoyed it!

I did enjoy the spiritual aspects of BSG as well. I loved seeing how it could, also, be explored in a science fiction way so as to make it less personal. Really rather fascinating - and though some people would deny it/miss it, it was there throughout the entire series. And yes, the head characters were blatantly spiritual beings. There would be no way to know some of the things they were saying if Baltar was merely schizofrentic (sp)...

Basically, in short, Battlestar Galacitca was a show both my husband and I could watch and enjoy! This is very often not the case! He really isn't a big fan of science fiction, and I am, but we both enjoyed this show. After nearly every episode was over, we'd sit there and discuss it for hours with the different social, political, or spiritual implications. It was a LOT of fun to be able to do that!

Now, I will definitely concede a little and say that parts of season 3 were a little rough. They missed it in several episodes in a row, in my opinion. And it probably would've been pretty easy to tune it out at that point if it wasn't so easy to just order the next Netflix DVD. Though, in my opinion, season 4 really brought it back around.

Now, since I was not there at the beginning (or even during the airing), I'm not sure about this, but, according to what I've picked up from the podcasts (the commentary that are on the DVDs - also available through iTunes for free BTW), Ron Moore did NOT have a plan going into the whole thing. It was planned to be serialized, but they didn't have specific ideas of exactly how it was going to be accomplished and did just write it as it went along. And even as far as it being serialized, a lot of the PTB at SyFy wanted it to be more episodic anyway - hence the several stand-alone episodes that appear from time to time, especially in season 3, which, IMO, is what made season 3 a little less than the other seasons... I have read the show bible that was mentioned, and it doesn't refer to any grand mapping of the plot either - just mostly a lot about the world and character backstory (which a lot of comes out in the shows anyway)...

Evidently, Yongjin has posted my response to a person on SyFy above. For clarification, my answers are the ones he put in the italics...

So, there's my post. Look forward to interacting with y'all as the show airs again (though I won't be watching it as it airs since I don't get BBCAmerica, so will be going off of memory)...

Thanks for coming in and posting ArofT:joy:

On the Baltar thing, in addition to what was said, I had been think that given all of the pressures and the knowing "what I did wrong" issues in his head, one could say that Baltar was 'keeping it together' pretty well. If anyone else were to be living with the guilt of being complicit in the cylon attack and the near total wipeout of his fellow humans -because of his desire to get it on with his hot blonde friend- and then waiting for the 'shoe to drop' and be found out..well you saw the show. I think any person not in a very healthy state of mind would of cracked in his situation.
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan
well anyone who is watching on BBC-A tonight:
hope you paid attention in "33" details of it will come back in future eps--same as with "Water".
thx
 
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Graybrew1

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Thanks for coming in and posting ArofT:joy:

On the Baltar thing, in addition to what was said, I had been think that given all of the pressures and the knowing "what I did wrong" issues in his head, one could say that Baltar was 'keeping it together' pretty well. If anyone else were to be living with the guilt of being complicit in the cylon attack and the near total wipeout of his fellow humans -because of his desire to get it on with his hot blonde friend- and then waiting for the 'shoe to drop' and be found out..well you saw the show. I think any person not in a very healthy state of mind would of cracked in his situation.

Yes, indeed. We actually created another thread for the fist two eps that aired tonight. Myself, Backstep and Stranger did a live rewatch and discussion on the shows. Here is the link.
I plan on doing one weekly.

http://www.gatefans.net/forums/showthread.php/2537-Episodes-33-and-Water-discusion?p=67540#post67540
 
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Graybrew1

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well anyone who is watching on BBC-A tonight:
hope you paid attention in "33" details of it will come back in future eps--same as with "Water".
thx

I tried my best, still not quite sure if Baltar was supposed to be distraught and delusional at this point, or if he was supposed to be actually communicating with the cylons already. She gave him info that he should not have had, so I thought it was "real". Correct?
 
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Backstep

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I tried my best, still not quite sure if Baltar was supposed to be distraught and delusional at this point, or if he was supposed to be actually communicating with the cylons already. She gave him info that he should not have had, so I thought it was "real". Correct?

I don't know if or the writing team planed baltars character to be psychotic or changed him in season 2. To myself a schizophrenic Baltar would have held my interest more, more to the same as baltar in TOS.
 
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Graybrew1

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I don't know if or the writing team planed baltars character to be psychotic or changed him in season 2. To myself a schizophrenic Baltar would have held my interest more, more to the same as baltar in TOS.

I agree, I hated TOS Baltar, but it was more of a shock to the system than anything else to me, just like Starbuck being a woman was too.
 

SciphonicStranger

Objects may be closer than they appear
I don't know if or the writing team planed baltars character to be psychotic or changed him in season 2. To myself a schizophrenic Baltar would have held my interest more, more to the same as baltar in TOS.

I still think they just wanted a camera on Tricia as much as possible. :D
 
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Graybrew1

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I still think they just wanted a camera on Tricia as much as possible. :D

To skirt your joke just a tad, but you might be correct, pretty woman get attention. She is a pretty woman, can't hurt ratings. But her character is also very vital to the entire show. We just did not know it yet at this point.
 
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Graybrew1

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Whew. Been busy with the movies, so it took a bit to get back to this. Sorry, Yongjin. :rolleyes: I did watch the next two eps and my main question is this.
Was this the time that Starbuck actually "died" and never really came back, or is that another time when she is gone for later?
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan
Whew. Been busy with the movies, so it took a bit to get back to this. Sorry, Yongjin. :rolleyes: I did watch the next two eps and my main question is this.
Was this the time that Starbuck actually "died" and never really came back, or is that another time when she is gone for later?

nope, not dead yet. real or otherwise. And when she did "die" she came back for practical purposes. The "whatever she was" and however she/it was caused, she had all the life experiences and knowledge of Starbuck..but that comes much later.
 

Joelist

What ship is this?
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Nope, the "death" is much later in the show (near the end of Season 3).

If you are referring to Starbuck crash landing on the planet with the Cylon Raider then that is a good episode.

Pretty soon you'll be coming to some really good ones, like "Tigh me up, Tigh me down" and "The Hand of God".
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan
Nope, the "death" is much later in the show (near the end of Season 3).

If you are referring to Starbuck crash landing on the planet with the Cylon Raider then that is a good episode.

Pretty soon you'll be coming to some really good ones, like "Tigh me up, Tigh me down" and "The Hand of God".

"Tigh me up,Tigh me down", I thought was hysterical, especially given the context of the situation--end of civilization, chased by cylons. it is probably one of the only ep's that is so close to deliberate comedy. The one with Shelly Godfrey is pretty funny too, Baltar at his most comedically-paranoid. That one should be real soon as well.:icon_razz:
 
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Graybrew1

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nope, not dead yet. real or otherwise. And when she did "die" she came back for practical purposes. The "whatever she was" and however she/it was caused, she had all the life experiences and knowledge of Starbuck..but that comes much later.

That is what I suspected but I wanted to check for sure. I remember her being done for much longer and being competely written off by the other character's as dead.
 

SciphonicStranger

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Graybrew1

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Now he is really fracked. LOL. I loved Starbuck to the Doctor.
Frack off, I need a Pill. :icon_lol:
 
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