Yes I am, Saturday has two eps running 33 and Water. 33 starting at 7pm and Water at 8pm EDT
33 may make you want to say "yeah now this is sci fi (at least the pew-pew, flying through space stuff)" Water may make you want to stop watching..I almost did. Like GRAYBREW said above about what she thinks this website is about (besides it's name
) is a place where all fans of all sci-fi can come and talk to what they know and appreciate in their favorite shows. Things, I would think could range from classic 'TWILIGHT ZONE' to 'XMEN' and everything in between.
this is what I have always liked about sci-fi, and it is where the Syfy channel is "missing the trick" in mine and many other's opinions. They went from being a broad based, all sub-genres of sci-fi new and old, to being a channel where actual sci-fi of any type, has been relegated to just 1 or 2 nights a week. It is good that this website wants to expand to encompass different forms of sci-fi, but one should remember that sci-fi can come in many forms. If this site goes the way of Syfy than it would not be one I would care to come to--and perhaps you may not want me.
Some have said that BSG was not for "purists" of sci-fi ( the differences between 33 and water is a good example of why they may think that), but I ask: what is pure sci-fi?
Some on other forums have said that sci-fi is anything that is in the realm of the scientifically probable/possible. I, for one, think that quite a bit of what is in BSG fits that requirement. Space travel is probable. Robotic organisms are probable (just look at what the Japanese are making with their "companion bots"). They didn't use lasers, they used gunpowder based and nuclear weapons-already got those. There computer systems aren't much difference than what we have. Is it probable or possible that there are other life forms, even those that are human elsewhere in our galaxy? I think it would be profoundly foolish for one to say "absolutely not".
Not to get to deep here and jump to the end of the series, but the ending was predictable for being in tune with the form it was. Since it was a "re-do" of TOS, the prediction was there. The original started out every ep with a narrator saying "Life here began out there...Long ago ancestors of the Mayans, Toltecs, Eygptians....came here...", so why the shock? Moore followed fairly closely the outline of the original, even with many of the episode titles. The ep where STARBUCK crashes on a planet with a cylon raider and takes it back to Galactica (alert--this ep is supposeed to tell you of STARBUCKS "specialness")is almost identical to a TOS one. Main diff being that TOS raiders were 'manned' by centurions, so in the orig. STARBUCK re-programmed the centurion.
the inclusion of the greco-roman pantheon of gods is also another "tell" of how it may of ended. These ancient religions of our world were based on tales and legends of ancient humans...in DAYBREAK when Apollo says he was going to "go out and explore this new planet and see whats out there" and I think earlier in the ep he says something about helping the 'natives' (us) to evolve without the use of their advanced tech, is also a goof fictional 'fit' into our ancient mythologies. these stories say that Apollo, son of Zeus, took his chariot of fire around the earth spreading knowledge to its people" sounds pretty similar to what Lee Adama was planning on and maybe ended up doing.
When you look at what's known about, say the Pyramids for one, building and ancient construction, tools available, etc--no one can truly forward a reasonable hypothesis on how the Egyptians built the great pyramids. If one,as a SG fan, can accept that shows 'explanation' of this real world riddle, then one should be open to the 'explanation' posited by BSG lore ('life here began out there'). I am not saying that I believe in Erich Von Daniken and Zechariah Sitchin and their theories--though they bring up some fascinating questions and do expose the impossibilities of ancient construction as accepted by mainstream academia--I am saying that the landing here of the colonial fleet is just as good as a fictional explanation as any other. The abandonment of their tech is also consistent with Moore's vision of not being too "scifi ish" as well.
I will say that I feel that the use of Mitochondrial Eve as Hera concept is too much. I would have been much happier if they had landed say, 12,000 yrs ago, when man somehow made the 'jump' from hunter-gatherer to society builder, farmer and primitive politician--it would have been a better fit. Either on the DVD commentary or in an online written piece, Moore says that he and his team, when discussing the ending--to be in tune with TOS--came up with the idea that in the last scene, instead of seeing Head/angel 6 and Baltar in NYC, we see an archaeology crew digging under the great pyramids and finding the Galactica buried there. (if you look at background and concept art for Colonial planet-side scenes of the 12 colonies you can see that some of their older building are built in Pyramid style or a take on them, so this being a possible 'first structure' for them would be like us building a lean to or log cabin in a similar situation). This was nixed as Moore could not separate himself by the MEve thing.
I and many others also liked it because, even though it was sci-fi, it was not too "sci-fiish". That is no space aliens, teleportation, snakes in the head
,etc The show spoke to the actual "what would happen ifs.." if this situation occurred: they had to conserve and find water, they had to conserve and find fuel, food, they had to 'nationalize' private manufacturing ships to do these things, they had to apply socialism and conscript workers into working for the good of the fleet, they had labor unrest, political debates, constitutional issues, they had to ban abortion, etc, etc. All very much like what we would do if we were in this "what if" situation. Perhaps this reflection of reality and the mundaneness of fulfilling requirements of logistics, material and manpower were to close to reality for some who watched. I can understand that, many watch tv and sci-fi specifically to "get away" from their everyday lives.
Maybe I said this here, don't remember. I never jumped to damning any sg shows before I watched and comprehended what was going on with them. I wouldn't do the "judge a book/tv show,by its cover" type of thing. I watched SG1/A and liked them told GB and another that when I got done with them. I encouraged both of these ppl--who at the time were having a bit of difficulty understanding CAPRICA, that they should try to watch all of BSG and then they would "get" CAPRICA better--and they did!!
If you go to any BSG forum or web site, you will see many ppl who have watched and re-watched. freeze framed and enlarged images to "get it", with each time they say they understand more or see where they didn't get something 1st time around. If you watched and understood the show--and unfortunately it is one of those shows that if you miss an ep you will miss "something". Even eps that seem stand alone ones have a small scene or bit of info that is important to the arc (this happens in water by the way)--and still don't like it, fine. I am not going to try to convert you into a fan. But I would hope that if you care to make the comment on the show here, then I presume that you watched it and not just a couple of eps and said :this is not'pure'..this is love story mush, etc etc. If you did this and you still want to know more--like GB--than I suggest that you ask questions, research sites, or just read other comments before you whip out your "damnation stick"
Oh it was obvious to me they were setting baltar up to be the cylon's "god" since the second season...
Kind of wish it didn't exist either but ironically Galactica 1980 was right next to those Sliders sets I saw at Walmart today that I mentioned in another topic. Really bizarre and obscure selection of sets for a mainstream store like Walmart to be selling. Normally, I would expect to see popular shows on broadcast tv like Smallville, House, Supernatural etc not shows that have been cancelled for decades.
