YJ02
Well Known GateFan
Well RDM intended that ppl be left with questions (i'm guessing ppl who are very frustrated with the sgu ending and watched the BSG ending probably had to get new tv's afterward
)angel 6 and gaius can be anyone, there not 'locked into' these forms. they are purpotedly still here among us. maybe their "mission" now is to prevent the cycle from re-occurring or maybe it is to help it along once again? (remember in the end TPTB cleverly tied in real footage of robots especially those freaky Japanese ones (which soon are supposedly going to be capable of providing 'sexual favors' eew those japanese)! Perhaps this was RDM's way of answering the question that the 2 'angels' posed to each other, it was something like 'maybe all of that won't happen again'--of course showing our real robotic advances helps answer that it is 'happening again'. Of course these 2 are not the only 'angels' about. They could be intentionally working at cross-purposes(hence more chaos). I have thought that perhaps the ancient Kobol gods were 'angels' perhaps on Kobol the 'game' was to make themselves known to all, show power and rule theoistically. this would allow them to introduce the Kobol version of robotic cylons and help the humans make space faring tech. Remember on Kobol, Sharon told Laura about Athena's tomb=="whoever she was, whatever she was, Athena's tomb is up there". The colonial cylons do not know who the gods were and they do not know about the "head" creatures--until Caprica 6 starts to see 'Baltar'. Perhaps that was part of the 'grand chaotic plan'--assume the role of gods, cause dissent on Kobol and evacuation, dissappear and allow the religious strife we saw in CAPRICA take place/ All just another take on what they helped to cause previously--a different 'flavor' of chaos.
The ppl who came to our Earth, they probably didn't give up all tech. I t would be against human nature. I am sure they did not want to resort to wearing animal skins, so maybe they adapted some tech to make spinning wheels and looms? Think about us-we say we are going to stop doing this or that, go green, eat less,etc.,, we do it half way and never fully commit with the exception of a few. We know Adama uses his raptor, Tyrol used one or a viper to get to 'England', Apollo is going to have to use one to do his globetrotting--what better way to form the legend of mythical Apollo and his golden fiery chariot than with a raptor or viper spewing hot firey exhaust?
The impression that I got is that cylons can die-of old age. It is obviously something they have never tried-they haven't been around for too long-and that they can 'will' it somehow (think of the elves and half elves of TLOTR's-they can choose to be mortal or not) like a self programming adjustment (?) And in the rough and tumble world of our pre-history, I am sure that many of them, and Galactica's humans, will fall victim to the 'savages' on Earth. I am sure a blonde 6 or a Sharon would make a great trophy for some 'ugh-ugh' paleolithic male. We know interbreeding is possible-Sharon did it and the cylons knew it was scientifically possible hence their breeding farms on Caprica. And-one thing that I feel was very clever--the Sharons and their being 'asian'. Anthropologists and the like have never come up with a good, sound reason for the differences in appearances in humans, ESPECIALLY between Asians and the rest of us (Caucasians, blacks). Some say their eye-folds are due to the adaptations to the sun, well humans in Europe and western Asia living at the same latitudes never developed these traits. Many Japanese and Koreans today have their eye folds removed thru cosmetic surgery-their ability to deal with the sun and everything else is unchanged. Frankly, many of our real explanation for their differences are Euro-centric and borderline racist. I have never read anything on why Asians have dark brown or black hair either. SO the introduction of the Sharon models landing and settling in Asia=thereby their introduction (thousands of Sharons-even hundreds) could go a long way in posing a fictional reason for the actual differences.
Personally, I would have liked to have seen them get 'here' a little later-like around 15,000BC--the 100,000 yrs ago thing was to facilitate a 'match' with the whole mitochondrial Eve thing--a 'pet-peeve' of RDM's to be sure--it wasn't necessary. A later date could have been used to expand on the themes of the original series--that the builders of our very old and still not understood objects==the Great Pyramids (do you know that after these were built, construction of later Pyramids got worse--they even had collapses, they couldn't make the bases square-the knowledge was somehow lost, even as their civilization and power grew), the Granite structures in Peru/Chile where the stone is so hard it can only be cut by diamond, not with clubs and rocks as science would have us believe (no I am not a fanatical 'ancient astronaut' believer. actually I think that there were older human civilizations that developed faster that others due to social org and resources) and others. However to do this in show, would have been harder for RDM and gang as they would have had to assume that a sufficient number of fans were well versed enough in Mythology/history/archaeology or anthropology to 'get it'--thus showing the National Geographic article on 'eve' and tying that to Hera was a more convenient method.
No offense to anyone (it would be the fault of education systems anyhow) but I think that many of those who didn't get the ending-and still dont get it after explanations--is a result of their not knowing even a basic smattering of the history of ancient Earth or the mythos of ancient peoples (on the whole Apollo and others turning into legend and mythology-this is a place where the lore of SG1 and BSG intersect nicely with the whole ancient gods being Go'auld thing).
yeah just ask specific questions and I will shoot you 'answers', either mine or others as I have picked them up from the BSG/CAPRICA Syfy forums (what a difference between them and the SGU one heh?)
Anyways..if you listen to the podcasts on the BSG dvd's Moore and his partners say that plain and simple is not what they are delivering (I think they speak on it a lot in the ep when Starbuck comes 'back from the dead' and is never explained). This show and CAPRICA are shows that require interactive though from the viewers, if you just view and take it in for plain old entertainment, you are not going to see much. It is what it is, take or leave it, love it or hate it. It did receive a lot of critical acclaim and, for what its worth, the cast and crew were part of a global peace inititiative at the UN. So some one "get's it".
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