The Atlantis movie was NEVER going to be made, so how could a "hold" have been put on it?

[Overmind One]

Its hiding in plain view.

If someone like me can find this information online, then anyone can find it.

It's all right there, if you enter in the keywords "stargate atlantis prop for sale" (without the quotation marks).

More sites than just PropWorx are offering them to the general public.

Meh.

Yep, I happened to be talking to a friend who lives near Rupert Park in Burnaby BC, and I had no idea how close it was to Bridge Studios. I happened to be talking about this site to her and she said she is on that facility on a regular basis with catering crews. I asked her about the shows and she said she wasnt interested in them, but that she knew that the sets were torn down in "the big Stage". It was only a matter of deduction to investigate. The big FX stage which is 40,000 square feet was also used by Atlantis, but sets were demolished for SGU.

http://www.bridgestudios.com/facility.html

Click on the FX Stage for info. SGU's sets are in there right now.

 

[Overmind One]

Ironic, isnt it?

Lying or not, how do we know he wouldn't go out and try to "fix" SGA the way he "fixed" SGU? He and Brad already made it clear how much they are sick of SG1 & SGA, so why would I trust them to make another movie for those shows?

Not only did they kill any hope for any Atlantis movie, but by destroying the SG-1 SGC set for Icarus Base, they also killed any possibility of having that set for any SG-1 movie which might have used it. So they have no choice but to push for SGU to continue because they HAVE NO CHOICE. They have demolished the escape route by destroying the sets they would have needed.

 

[Illiterati]

Yep, I happened to be talking to a friend who lives near Rupert Park in Burnaby BC, and I had no idea how close it was to Bridge Studios. I happened to be talking about this site to her and she said she in on that facility on a regular basis with catering crews. I asked her about the shows and she said she wasnt interested in them, but that she knew that the sets were torn down in "the big Stage". It was only a matter of deduction to investigate. The big FX stage which is 40,000 square feet was also used by Atlantis, but was demolished for SGU.

http://www.bridgestudios.com/facility.html

Click on the FX Stage for info. SGU's sets are in there right now.

Ya, I took a look at your earlier link.

I'm wondering when they will also be dismantled, or if someone's hoping for a Hail Mary kind of play (a la American football) that will "save" SGPU.

 

[Overmind One]

When they do, we know that Brad's "Plan B" failed.

Ya, I took a look at your earlier link.

I'm wondering when they will also be dismantled, or if someone's hoping for a Hail Mary kind of play (a la American football) that will "save" SGPU.

Stargate Productions I is going to run out of money and those sets will have to come down. When they do, we know that SGU us TRULY done for good.

 

[Tropicana]

Now that's what I call responsible investigative journalism

I'm glad we have people who can investigate and provide evidence that confirms the suspicions and disperses the smoke screen.

By destroying both SG-1 & SGA sets for the lame ass SGU set, they indeed have placed all their eggs onto one basket; and now the basket has been dropped, all the eggs are broken - a very high price to pay, well that's what arrogance gets ya.

It was a nice play on facts by Mallozzi (as always), claiming SGA movie was shelved indefinitely as punishment, but now we know for sure via research, that the SGA sets were gone a long time ago. Is it really punishment afterall? With this new intel, guess it's not.

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[Illiterati]

I'm glad we have people who can investigate and provide evidence that confirms the suspicions and disperses the smoke screen.

By destroying both SG-1 & SGA sets for the lame ass SGU set, they indeed have placed all their eggs onto one basket; and now the basket has been dropped, all the eggs are broken - a very high price to pay, well that's what arrogance gets ya.

It was a nice play on facts by Mallozzi though, claiming SGA movie was shelved indefinitely as punishment, when in actual fact the SGA sets were gone a long time ago, so the movie was a lost cause in the first place.

I've always been one who paid attention to semantics and I have never been able to believe something on its face.

I think it might be a good idea to keep an eye on eBay and the various prop houses to see when SGU items start going up for sale. I doubt it will be very long before that occurs. The rabid SGU fans who are convinced it will get a second chance (and a third season) who visit here under anonymously will have a rude awakening when that happens, methinks.

 

[Tropicana]

Oh yes!

I wouldn't be surprised that some here may auction for some of the SGU stuff, to only make a video of them blowing the prop up.

For my own personal development, nothing beats seeing a job through to the end so if that day comes and SGU props are for sale in an attempt by MGM to recoup some losses, then it will be another big celebration.

 

[bumble]

They had no intention of revisiting SGA. Atlantis was purged from the Stargate universe. No mention of it on SGU. A definite denial that no SGA characters would appear on SGU .. that only changed when SGU started its epic fail. They didn't want anything to do with it, they were only interested in their new baby with its better caliber actors and young and desparate cast.

Isn't it interesting that once they finally decided to bring in some SGA characters they picked ones that were on SG1 first, so they can still ignore Atlantis. I'm curious how they bring on McKay and Woolsey - if they mention Atlantis or are just there as an Ancient technology specialist and an IOA representative. :icon_e_wink:

 

[Illiterati]

Isn't it interesting that once they finally decided to bring in some SGA characters they picked ones that were on SG1 first, so they can still ignore Atlantis. I'm curious how they bring on McKay and Woolsey - if they mention Atlantis or are just there as an Ancient technology specialist and an IOA representative. :icon_e_wink:

Well, as I've said before, it's obvious that SGU took place in an AU. Just look at the glaring differences between characters we knew on the previous shows and their incarnations on SGU...and the apparent non-existence of Atlantis which we all have noticed, I believe.

They can't pull an "it was all a dream" thing with this and pretend that SGA didn't exist.

TPTB seem to think they can, but we're all wide awake and know that we're being bullshitted.

 

[Stonelesscutter]

Why does the fact that Atlantis isn't mentioned in the show mean that they're ignoring it?
Is there any real evidence that SGU takes place in an alternate universe?

 

[Overmind One]

Thats easy.

Why does the fact that Atlantis isn't mentioned in the show mean that they're ignoring it?
Is there any real evidence that SGU takes place in an alternate universe?

Season 1 of SGU is the proof. They launched the show from Icarus Base because the sets for Atlantis were already gone. They launched the show with Jack and Daniel (via video), and the entirety of Season 1 they never mentioned Atlantis, even though the only place where the 9 chevron address would have been found would have been Atlantis's Ancient database.

Better question...what proof is there that SGU took place in the same universe that SG-1 and SGA did? No Stargate Command, security in SGU allows "the wrong people" to know about the stargate, the Lucian Alliance is now a major enemy, the design of the Destiny resembles nothing made by Ancients in SG-1 or SGA, the ship travels through "FTL" (ripoff from BSG), even though no other Ancient ships in either SG-1 or SGA use it...the list goes on.

You have doubts?

 

[Tropicana]

On 1x01 "Air", the incidental piece used in the opening sequence that featured the viola or a cello (need to hear it again to determine), that was a blatant rip off from BSG as well, the piece that implies some kind of creaking grand old ship.

 

[Stonelesscutter]

Season 1 of SGU is the proof. They launched the show from Icarus Base because the sets for Atlantis were already gone. They launched the show with Jack and Daniel (via video), and the entirety of Season 1 they never mentioned Atlantis, even though the only place where the 9 chevron address would have been found would have been Atlantis's Ancient database.

Better question...what proof is there that SGU took place in the same universe that SG-1 and SGA did? No Stargate Command, security in SGU allows "the wrong people" to know about the stargate, thew Lucian Alliance is not a major enemy, the design of the Destiny resembles nothing made by Ancients in SG-1 or SGA, the ship travels through "FTL" (ripoff from BSG), even though no other Ancient ships in either SG-1 or SGA use it...the list goes on.

You have doubts?

You raise some good points but I still find there's a lack of cold hard evidence to conclude that this is actually set in an alternate universe.
By the way, the term FTL was already commonly used in Atlantis.

 

[heisenberg]

You are making me cry(literally burst into tears) Overmind One . Goodbye Stargate atllantis and SG-1, I'll miss you.Btw can someone post this on gateworld? Like to see the reactions *Puts popcorn in the microwave*. The truth needs to go where people need to get a reality check(GW).

 

[Rac80]

Why should we be surprised?

Yes, it is very apparent that they never planned to make any SGA movies. It was all about getting fans of SG1 and SGA to watch that piece of shit loosely labeled "Stargate" Universe.

The only thing that was "Stargate" was the Gate shown during the opening credits.

When you don't actually use the goddamn thing, it's not Stargate.

EXACTLY!!!! You can call it whatever you want- but the freaking show IS NOT a STARGATE show!

Not only the sets being torn down but they have been and i believe are continuing to auction of props,costumes and set pieces of Atlantis. That gives even more reason and another point that the movie wouldn't be made. If they torn down the sets and was going to build them for the movie at a later date then why would they sell all the props and stuff.

Joe....your full of shit and you have royally screwed up.Why after 15 years of fans supporting and watching SG-1 and SGA you've started to lie to the fans and ruin something that was great,trying to turn Stargate into something it simply isn't.

Way to **** and thanks for nothing.

I never believed the movies would get made! I'm a cynic and have LOOOOONG distrusted Loretta & Bernice!

The Vancouver Sun published a blurb on this page on October 2, 2008:

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/business/story.html?id=abec6209-6c7b-42e1-be65-2ea36946819d

Excerpt:

We see how that turned out (in bold). But the main thing to remember is that the Atlantis sets WERE torn down to make room for Stargate Universe, and when they were torn down, that already sealed the fate of any future Atlantis movie. The movie was never going to be made in the first place, which means that all of the comments teasing its development were LIES.

Now, he wants us to be angry at ourselves because we refused to love his teen soap which just got axed? Nope, not this fan. I know he never intended to produce the Atlantis movie now. It wasnt ever going to happen.

"The Young and the Desperate" sounds like the title for a soap - oh yeah it is- sgpoo's secondary title!

Its nice to see proof of what we've all known now for the last 2 years. I'm still quite dumbfounded that some still believe the lies that JM spouts on a daily basis.

I've never believed that Brad and Co intended to make the movies. None of the SGA cast were EVER approached by the producers, not even directly after SGA ended, before the economy, DVD market and all the other things that were blamed for it not happening.

When I asked Joe F very shortly after SGA ended if he believed a movie would happen, he said no. Jason didn't even hesitate when he answered no at the Bedford Convention in England a short time afterwards.

If Brad had any intention of making an SGA movie he would have least discussed it with the cast and attempted to draw up contracts etc and then go back and tell them it couldn't happen due to all the various reasons. But this never happened. They had plently of opportunity to make the movie, they just didn't want to. They had no intention of revisiting SGA. Atlantis was purged from the Stargate universe. No mention of it on SGU. A definite denial that no SGA characters would appear on SGU .. that only changed when SGU started its epic fail. They didn't want anything to do with it, they were only interested in their new baby with its better caliber actors and young and desparate cast.

I'm still wondering what was so young about them as I'm sure the average age of the SGA cast was younger than the SGU cast. Carlyle and Feriera arn't exactly spring chickens and the show revolved mostly around them .

So if there's any blame to handed out for the destruction of the franchise.. it lands firmly on Brad and Co and no one else.

they were the desperate part of the young and the despereate!



I find it HILARIOUS that GW still has the Atlantis movie shelved title up on their front page! talk about trying to stir shit....

 

[Tropicana]

We know where GW's allegiance lies so are you surprised? If Mallozzi told them to jump, GW will jump; if Mallozzi told them to jump off a cliff, you bet GW will do that too.

 

[Overmind One]

The writers didnt actually write it in an AU, if thats what you mean....

You raise some good points but I still find there's a lack of cold hard evidence to conclude that this is actually set in an alternate universe.
By the way, the term FTL was already commonly used in Atlantis.

The writers did NOT intend for it to be seen in an alternate universe, if that is what you mean...

But it is most certainly not in the same universe that SGA and SG-1 were in, and the FANS will place it permanently in an AU because thats where it belongs. I will never consider it canon or a Stargate show. So the cold hard evidence is the show itself and what is portrayed in it.

 

[shavedape]

TPTB are idiots!

The writers did NOT intend for it to be seen in an alternate universe, if that is what you mean...

But it is most certainly not in the same universe that SGA and SG-1 were in, and the FANS will place it permanently in an AU because thats where it belongs. I will never consider it canon or a Stargate show. So the cold hard evidence is the show itself and what is portrayed in it.

Agreed. Even though TPTB will never admit it what they created was an AU Stargate show. There's just way too many strange and different things that prove it's an alternate universe. The hilarious thing about it is that TPTB are too stupid to know that this is EXACTLY what they have created.

 

[Stonelesscutter]

The writers did NOT intend for it to be seen in an alternate universe, if that is what you mean...

Aaaaah, now it makes more sense.

 

[I Miss Fri Night SCIFI]

Alternate Universe indeed! Who touched the Quantum Mirror!!!

I thought General Hammond had it destroyed?

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Quantum_Mirror

Let's go back to P3R-233 and pretend this never happened...