It has a name: Star Trek: Into Darkness.

[Overmind One]

I didn't mind the Enterprise tech, and the ship design was cool to me as well, especially the somewhat austere interiors.

The Vulcans were a definite problem that they had to devote episodes to in Season 4 (otherwise known as the season Manny Coto used to make Enterprise fit canon). Ditto the whole Xindi plotline. Season one was actually good - it tailed off pretty quickly thereafter.

I liked the first season best of them all, but I did not particularly like the show at all when it was being aired. I watched it completely after Voyager was gone...fairly recently, in fact. I try to see it as being a separate take on Trek as opposed to being part of the same Trek that TNG, DS9 and Voyager are a part of. The Xindi ruined it completely. You cant just introduce new aliens in the canon like that.

 

[Bluce Ree]

And don't forget the plastic square 'memory chips'

Oh yeah! I forgot those! They looked like flat 80's style cassettes.
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I liked the first season best of them all, but I did not particularly like the show at all when it was being aired. I watched it completely after Voyager was gone...fairly recently, in fact. I try to see it as being a separate take on Trek as opposed to being part of the same Trek that TNG, DS9 and Voyager are a part of. The Xindi ruined it completely. You cant just introduce new aliens in the canon like that.

That's the problem with a fictional universe period piece. If you can't make the established history work, there isn't much you can introduce to it. I feel Enterprise would have worked as a mini series.

 

[YJ02]

"Oh yeah! I forgot those! They looked like flat 80's style cassettes. "

There was another movie-I think, from the 60's or 70's where they had similar things that were some kind of food..I am thinking SOYLENT GREEN, but I know I am wrong. It was some type of space based movie. Any idea what I am talking about?

 

[Overmind One]

"Oh yeah! I forgot those! They looked like flat 80's style cassettes. "

There was another movie-I think, from the 60's or 70's where they had similar things that were some kind of food..I am thinking SOYLENT GREEN, but I know I am wrong. It was some type of space based movie. Any idea what I am talking about?

Yeah, it was Soylent Green.

 

[YJ02]

"my god..its people-soylent green is people"

 

[Bluce Ree]

"my god..its people-soylent green is people"

It's just stupid people. Nobody will miss stupid people.

 

[YJ02]

who wouldn't get out of the way when you hear "the scoops are coming people! move out of the way-disperse-scoops!" dumb jack wagons

 

[Bluce Ree]

who wouldn't get out of the way when you hear "the scoops are coming people! move out of the way-disperse-scoops!" dumb jack wagons

*sigh*

 

[YJ02]

*sigh*

Now that's dedication!
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here's the clip--complete with a shot of all those ST:TOS surplus 'computer chips':

 

[Joelist]

I rewatched a couple of installments of Enterprise, and yes the Vulcan's were "off" in their portrayal. The thematic elements were wrong and actually the root cause behind a 3 part episode in Season 4 to put the Vulcans back towards the Vulcans were knew before.

However, I also noted something else. The Vulcans talked wrong. Vulcans up to Enterprise had a slightly slower, deliberately paced diction and did not use contractions when they spoke. The Vulcans in Enterprise sounded no different than ordinary people on the street from Earth. This continued even after the events of Kir Shara in Enterprise. It reminds me of one of the annoying things in the TNG movies - Marina Sirtis magically lost her accent and diction from the series and Troi in the films sounds just like any woman on the street. To me, both denote LAZINESS on the part of the directors and actors.

Thankfully, in the 09 movie both Spock and Sarek are portrayed correctly. They have the classic Vulcan diction.

 

[YJ02]

I rewatched a couple of installments of Enterprise, and yes the Vulcan's were "off" in their portrayal. The thematic elements were wrong and actually the root cause behind a 3 part episode in Season 4 to put the Vulcans back towards the Vulcans were knew before.

However, I also noted something else. The Vulcans talked wrong. Vulcans up to Enterprise had a slightly slower, deliberately paced diction and did not use contractions when they spoke. The Vulcans in Enterprise sounded no different than ordinary people on the street from Earth. This continued even after the events of Kir Shara in Enterprise. It reminds me of one of the annoying things in the TNG movies - Marina Sirtis magically lost her accent and diction from the series and Troi in the films sounds just like any woman on the street. To me, both denote LAZINESS on the part of the directors and actors.

Thankfully, in the 09 movie both Spock and Sarek are portrayed correctly. They have the classic Vulcan diction.

Okay, I'll play along

purely for rhetorical reasons alone; we got to talk about something

Vulcan speach; in ENTERPRISE it is pre-universal translator. we are shown one exists but it has not been perfected yet

-the vulcans were limited in their willingness to extend technology to Earth. In enterpise, Tapaul explains she had to learn human language, english, in order to be assigned to the vulcan mission on earth.

it is likely that the vulcans initially learned their english from the point of first contact. these humans were a motley band of survivors who spoke the american dialect, probably with a mid-west drawl and used american slang

once the UT became effective, it is likely that Vulcans chose to speak in their own language since it could be precisely translated. the ut would use standard english eliminating slang and contractions (the programmer was probably canadian )

again, i noted your points and agree, it is rather sloppy of ENT TPTB to not have been more precise, but I doubt if they ever considered the issue in any manner approaching how you did

Your case Mr Prosecutor

 

[Joelist]

(...clears throat with rhetorical flourish...)

I am fairly certain that the Vulcans in TOS, VOY and TNG did not employ the universal translator at all times. Yet in all their communications they sounded "Vulcan" (the aliens not the rubber product). They even did so in the TOS movies - even revived Spock in his Star Trek 4 "not working on all thrusters" state still had the Vulcan diction and deliberate speech (which made Spock's complete misuse of "colorful metaphors" even funnier).

Yes, it was sloppy on the part of the directors and producers of ENT not to pick up on such a basic element of portraying Vulcans on the screen. Just like the cast and directors/producers of the TNG movies paid less and less attention to making sure the characters were played correctly as the movies went on (Troi sounding just like a typical American woman is only one example).

 

[YJ02]

(...clears throat with rhetorical flourish...)

I am fairly certain that the Vulcans in TOS, VOY and TNG did not employ the universal translator at all times. Yet in all their communications they sounded "Vulcan" (the aliens not the rubber product). They even did so in the TOS movies - even revived Spock in his Star Trek 4 "not working on all thrusters" state still had the Vulcan diction and deliberate speech (which made Spock's complete misuse of "colorful metaphors" even funnier).

Yes, it was sloppy on the part of the directors and producers of ENT not to pick up on such a basic element of portraying Vulcans on the screen. Just like the cast and directors/producers of the TNG movies paid less and less attention to making sure the characters were played correctly as the movies went on (Troi sounding just like a typical American woman is only one example).

i protest!!
what is "vulcan" precisely?

in tos many of the vulcans speak with a slight asian accent(T'Pau)(some of the actors were asian)

some speak flat and monotone (lack of emotions)

it cant be because of vulcan discipline; the romulans revolted against this, yet they speak with the same tone as our vulcan friends do

 

[EvilSpaceAlien]

http://teamcoco.com/video/zachary-quinto-gives-an-exclusive-star-trek-preview

Just thought I'd drop by and share this exclusive clip.

 

[Bluce Ree]

http://teamcoco.com/video/zachary-quinto-gives-an-exclusive-star-trek-preview

Just thought I'd drop by share this exclusive clip.

"... there are aliens and they will explode!"

 

[OMNI]

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so i guess trek is now more mindless action ala transformers/avengers then it is SCIENCE fiction?
im not impressed.

 

[Joelist]

Not necessarily. That is a one minute teaser - and teasers always get punched up with action scenes.

 

[Bluce Ree]

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so i guess trek is now more mindless action ala transformers/avengers then it is SCIENCE fiction?
im not impressed.

Whoa! That looks pretty good! All the ST teasers usually depict action scenes to drive up the adrenaline. It would be a pretty boring teaser trailer to hear how they've modified the warp core to regenerate dilithium crystals using a trilithium and plasma gas mixture on order to realign the molecules, causing the third lithium atom to be discarded, leaving behind pure dilithium once again ... then a fade out followed by that cool "paaadaaaaaammm!!" music from your teaser.

 

[Illiterati]

The blonde chick certainly looks like the character Sally Kellerman (Major Houlihan of the movie "M*A*S*H) played in the second pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before". Cumberbatch may not be playing Gary Mitchell (it's been said that he isn't, but then, who knows - they may be trying to muddy the waters), but they've certainly brought Dehner into it.

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Have you seen "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and the character Mitchel? He was the first omnipotent god-like character in ST.

Ya, but it was one of those "exposed to something nasty and unknown in outer space makes you superhuman" situations in the second pilot.

 

[YJ02]

why are there something very muck like a F117 in the trailer? i know it was a quick glimpse, but are "we" still using jet fighters by this time? it was just something that stuck out--but i do like to see how it appears there will be "earth action "as well