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Dominion (aka the war against the angels) Ratings and Predictions (Awards Given)
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It might be better than Dominion.
Like every show, it will have it's fans. But the real story is watching it yourself.
I watched it, once, and I concur with the author of that Hollywood Reporter article. Variety says similar. I think watching the ratings over the course of this season is going to show what is what. Numbers like 1.6m and 1.65m for a brand new, high production value show like this is a death sentence.
YJ02
Well Known GateFan
I gave up on this half way through the 2 (maybe 3rd) ep when they showed the female ambassador from Helena in a cell stripped to her underwear with her handmaidens--pure sexual pandering
Thursday night IS sex night on syfy-attested to as SPARTACUS absolutely does not fit in anywhere --not "sy" and not "fy" but full of s-e-x
I forced myself to watch all of the first episode (painful), then I tried to watch episode 2, and I couldnt watch more than 10 minutes of it, maybe less. Even a full nude shot wouldnt make me watch. Isnt that what porn is for? At least in porn I dont get silly angels and Hunger Games nonsense. Why do I feel this thing is some sort of amalgam of Legion (bad movie), Hunger Games (meh), and Dune? I downloaded eps 3, 4 and 5 but I am very tempted to delete them without watching. But that does not mean we cant predict ratings!
Thursday night IS sex night at Syfy, that is true!
heisenberg
Earl Grey
We know the show sucks but it is drawing an audience. I highly doubt it's going to get cancelled now. Same goes for defiance. Both disappointing news. I dislike this channel and these two shows very much and want it gone.Like every show, it will have it's fans. But the real story is watching it yourself.
DOMINION SYFY 9:00 PM 1583 0.5
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...loiter-squad-married-pawnography-more/283964/
Dominion could continue, but I think the future for Defiance is dim. they are using that huge location set that Tripler lives close to, and they have a huge cast. I dunno, you are right about them not getting canceled soon (except Defiance). Defiance got a two year deal we know of. What about after this season?
heisenberg
Earl Grey
Even if they are using the huge location, the show only has 13 episodes and it's still drawing well above 1.3m viewers.
True, but SGU, Atlantis, Terra Nova, and Primeval New World got canceled for higher numbers. Defiance is into it's second season down from the first, and the game has failed.
shavedape
Well Known GateFan
I'm too lazy to check so this is off the top of my head but from what I recall the producers sunk a ton of money into DEFECATION. I'm talking $100 million or more. (I recall it being more but don't know if that included the game production or not) My point being, 1.3 to 1.5 million viewers doesn't seem high enough to generate a good return on investment.
Obviously I'm not a staff accountant for the producers or investors so I don't know where they stand financially at this point. But from my reality-based vantage point I can't imagine how a show with such a large cast and such big production values can continue to tread water at 1.5 million viewers. I'm not seeing how they made back the original $100 million investment yet, let alone any profit in excess of that point. That just doesn't seem logical based on the numbers that we're seeing.
heisenberg
Earl Grey
SGU got cancelled because the series had a series of bare patches. The ratings were fluctuating and not consistent like this. Not sure about primeval new-world but Terra nova got cancelled because It was costing something like 10 million dollars an episode. A Farcry from what is spent on defiance.
Jim of WVa
Well Known GateFan
The first season of Dominion has a total of only 9 episodes. The second season of Defiance has a total of 13 episodes. Only 9 episodes in a season results in a relatively cheap season.
heisenberg
Earl Grey
Yeah, and that's why I think both of these shows will most likely renewed despite the ratings. While it is still early to tell weather these two shows will get renewed, I think this is where the two shows will level out.
shavedape
Well Known GateFan
It's rather disingenuous of them to call 9 episodes a season. Yes, I know, everyone does it nowadays, but still, it's not a conventional season in the classic sense. This number is more in line with the new gimmick of giving questionable shows two "seasons" in order to make it look as if they were so popular they got renewed. We here at GateFans were the first to get wise to this nonsense and see right through this marketing BS.
As for being a "relatively cheap season", that all depends on the ratings vs. the return on investment in the long run. God only knows what it costs to produce this turd down in South Africa what with government incentives, etc. so maybe the producers are ahead of the game for the time being. But still, a 1.6 average isn't exactly The Walking Dead type of ratings bonanza and I don't see a production of this size being able to sustain itself for longer than a fake two-season run.
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Jim of WVa
Well Known GateFan
Classic in the U.S. sense, that is. UK television programs would consider a series (the word they use instead of season) any number of episodes from 3 to 13. Shows like Faulty Towers would have been considered a miniseries in the U.S.
Jim of WVa
Well Known GateFan
I am beginning to like Dominion.
YJ02
Well Known GateFan
Well, it is adverted as being "based on" LEGION.
I didn't think that movie was "great" but it was FAR more watchable and entertaining then this show
shavedape
Well Known GateFan
Im curious...what is it you like about it so far? I hate it, but I have only watched all of episode 1 and less than 10 minutes of episode 2. I found it nauseatingly insipid. Does it change, or is it just that you like the premise, or what?