Age of Empires 4 and Age of Empires remake

[Lord Ba'al]

You are basing the quality of the game off a youtube quality video which is heavily compressed?

https://www.ageofempires.com/games/aoe/

You are right to say that technology has come a long way which is why they are providing this in 4k 60 -120fps experience. They've improved the mechanics too. I love the original too but they haven't watered it down by dumbing it down. It's a nice refreshment. It's also not going to be a fully priced game of 60 dollars either. I think it's much better attempt than the half assed blizzard remasters or the remasters we see from Sony. I know when I see a game from the heart and not done to make money at the sole intent. Some of the programmers are from the original franchise so don't think that it's not them that are there either.

https://www.ageofempires.com/news/whats-new-age-empires-definitive-edition/

As for gaming. It's just gotten more complicated. Do you know how much blood sweat and tears goes into a game? A lot and a lot I mean an insane amount. I am happy to pay for games. Infact I pay for my games, but the only reason why gaming is not what it used to be is because, how fast the industry is moving. You are right to say that there are some games that are 'dumb' but I tend to avoid those.

You are basically making my point for me. Technology has advanced a lot and what do they do with it? Higher resolutions, faster frame rates, new music scores, et cetera et cetera. Nobody ever puts any effort and uses the tech where it's needed most. GAMEPLAY!

Forgot to add. 20 bucks is full price for a game as far as I'm concerned. Just because some games these days are priced at 50, 60 or even 100 bucks doesn't make 20 bucks cheap, those other games are just outrageously overpriced.

 

[heisenberg]

You are basically making my point for me. Technology has advanced a lot and what do they do with it? Higher resolutions, faster frame rates, new music scores, et cetera et cetera. Nobody ever puts any effort and uses the tech where it's needed most. GAMEPLAY!

lol this is an RTS game. It's supposed to be played by keyboard and mouse. Gameplay evolution comes in increments and the gameplay is there. They've made it better by not just giving it a facelift. They've made it more balanced in the improved the AI feature.

https://forums.ageofempires.com/discussion/comment/5009/#Comment_5009

Forgot to add. 20 bucks is full price for a game as far as I'm concerned. Just because some games these days are priced at 50, 60 or even 100 bucks doesn't make 20 bucks cheap, those other games are just outrageously overpriced.

How is 20 dollars a full price?Do you know that game prices haven't really changed at all even though they should be in line with inflation, right? You know that you are lucky that you are getting games this cheap. Do you know how expensive games were in the 80s/90s and 00s? This is the problem with steam and going digital. People lose the ability to associate value for a game. We have become very spoiled for choice and greedy.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2010/10/an-inconvenient-truth-game-prices-have-come-down-with-time/

 

[Lord Ba'al]

My comment was not strictly directed to AoE4 but rather to games in general. I must note that I'm thinking mostly about simulation games as that's where my interests lie and where I think the neglect is the greatest. Pew pew games don't interest me at all. Not that AoE is such a game. I like AoE but the part with the different types of troops marching doesn't really interest me, I find that a rather tedious part. The part that interests me most is the building and developing. Although from time to time it's nice to obliterate an opponent. But I digress. Long ago there were simulation games which were mighty interesting, yet they were limited in scope because the tech was limited. Now the tech is there, has long been, but the games are not. The emphasis has always been on nicer graphics and such, not on expanding the game concepts. There would appear to be a serious lack of insightfulness (for want of a better word) in that regard. They go for what they think will bring them most gamers and most of the gamers just like dumb games. This leads to the same type of games dominating the industry, similarly to what has been happening with TV shows. Lowest common denominator. Dollar signs are king.

I can tell you by the way that I've probably never paid more than 20 bucks for a game and that might have happened once. These days I do have more capital but I'm still very much at the low end of the totem pole where income is concerned so I will not spend more than that on a game and only pay as much as that when I know the game is good and I really really REALLY want it.

 

[heisenberg]

My comment was not strictly directed to AoE4 but rather to games in general. I must note that I'm thinking mostly about simulation games as that's where my interests lie and where I think the neglect is the greatest. Pew pew games don't interest me at all. Not that AoE is such a game. I like AoE but the part with the different types of troops marching doesn't really interest me, I find that a rather tedious part. The part that interests me most is the building and developing. Although from time to time it's nice to obliterate an opponent. But I digress. Long ago there were simulation games which were mighty interesting, yet they were limited in scope because the tech was limited. Now the tech is there, has long been, but the games are not. The emphasis has always been on nicer graphics and such, not on expanding the game concepts. There would appear to be a serious lack of insightfulness (for want of a better word) in that regard. They go for what they think will bring them most gamers and most of the gamers just like dumb games. This leads to the same type of games dominating the industry, similarly to what has been happening with TV shows. Lowest common denominator. Dollar signs are king.

I can tell you by the way that I've probably never paid more than 20 bucks for a game and that might have happened once. These days I do have more capital but I'm still very much at the low end of the totem pole where income is concerned so I will not spend more than that on a game and only pay as much as that when I know the game is good and I really really REALLY want it.

I am not sure where you've been, but there has been a lot of great games this year and the year before that. If you are into Fantasy, there is Dishonored and the Witcher series. If you are into Stealth there has been Metal Gear Solid which right now is a steal on steam. If you are into space fantasy, there is Star Citizen which is still in beta but with over 160 million dollars of crowd funded money and counting being put forward towards a game, it is the heading towards the most expensive game ever made. It over shadowed Grand Theft Auto V for development costs. Games have become dumb but not all games are dumb. There are some fantastic puzzle games if you want to think that way but throw a blanket statement that all games sucks these days is a bit shallow when you've blanked yourself out of the gaming world. Games have become quite complicated and quite deep these days.

See this - starts off at 8:50


Star Citizen if they pull this off could be the most epic space simulator ever. It's actually one of the most open world shooters out there that is very deep.

Here is dishonored 2.



Here is MGS5

Here is Witcher 3

Forza 7 pc

 

[Lord Ba'al]

You should know that I don't have a computer good enough to run all those things.

 

[heisenberg]

You should know that I don't have a computer good enough to run all those things.

So you don't have a good PC, even though these are on consoles, but you want to claim that gaming has gotten bad,when all you have is your baseless argument with no real evidence or games to backup your argument.

 

[Lord Ba'al]

Yes!

 

[Overmind One]

So you don't have a good PC, even though these are on consoles, but you want to claim that gaming has gotten bad,when all you have is your baseless argument with no real evidence or games to backup your argument.

Okay, I have this game now.

I have played it several times, and although I do not have a 4K TV, I can play it at 1920x1080 and it looks very pretty. But it is the same game it was 10 years ago, EXACTLY. It has "new" civs, but all they are are renamed original civs, and they all look identical except the special units they always had. The buildings are the same, the behaviors of every unit are the same. I do not understand why this version came out.

 

[heisenberg]

Okay, I have this game now.

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I have played it several times, and although I do not have a 4K TV, I can play it at 1920x1080 and it looks very pretty. But it is the same game it was 10 years ago, EXACTLY. It has "new" civs, but all they are are renamed original civs, and they all look identical except the special units they always had. The buildings are the same, the behaviors of every unit are the same. I do not understand why this version came out.

This Age of Empires is a remake of the original. It's like the digital remaster of TNG or remaster of any movie/tv show. How can you make a game as iconic as AOE better other than do minor improvements here and there? Plus, they've reworked the sound track too

Here is the full soundtrack


Anyway, it's delayed down to being a bit buggy till early 2018
https://www.ageofempires.com/news/age-empires-de-release-update/

 

[Overmind One]

This Age of Empires is a remake of the original. It's like the digital remaster of TNG or remaster of any movie/tv show. How can you make a game as iconic as AOE better other than do minor improvements here and there? Plus, they've reworked the sound track too

Here is the full soundtrack


Anyway, it's delayed down to being a bit buggy till early 2018
https://www.ageofempires.com/news/age-empires-de-release-update/

I have the Age of Empires HD Edition. Yes, that is a good way to describe what they did. The graphocs are noticeably higher definition and everything looks noticeably crispier. But the movements of units still looks unrealistic. The ships are much larger, but they move the same. 180 degree turns, etc. Also, if you make too many ships in the dock, they can get stuck and you have to destroy them. Artillery units on land have issues too. Still, the game is as fun as it always was.

 

[Overmind One]

You should know that I don't have a computer good enough to run all those things.

Neither do I and I am an IT professional!

 

[Overmind One]

There is AOE Definitive edition so it looks like they are combining all 3 age of empires into one.

Wait, so you play this game? If so, we can create an online match for whomever wants to play!

 

[Lord Ba'al]

There is AOE Definitive edition so it looks like they are combining all 3 age of empires into one.

That's just AoE2.

 

[Overmind One]

That's just AoE2.

Yep. I have the HD remastered version, and it is really just the same game with higher graphics on MOST things. The game mechanics and units are the same, they just look better.