ParagonPie
Well Known GateFan
My tl;dr reaction
"how do you preserve and protect what Starfleet is in the weight of a challenge like war and the things that have to be done in war."
This quote has kind of stuck in my head, and clearly shows that the writers, producers or whoever else has zero clue on the past iterations of Star Trek or what they've done or attempted to expand. DS9 had a war arc, it showed off what happens when a threat to federation changes the very way of life, in the name of security how easily they were to giving up all of their civil liberties. They also did the episode AR-558, showing the bleak hopelessness of war, soldiers stuck there forced to hold a position, with no reinforcements or relief which might help out the war effort, people are dying for a maybe.
I'm not trying to make myself out as great or anything, but I've done creative/screen play writing as a hobby, and when you present ideas to the group you are utterly grilled to the point of saying "Why am I putting myself through this?" Because you have to be, you need to have people to utterly dissect your work. Why is this character like this? Did you show it, telegraph it previously? ST
screams to me the clear notion that Hollywood's almost incestous nature has essentially bred in a very secluded group who completely cut off from not only reality but the source material they claim to represent. While I dislike prequels in general ST could of done the Klingon Federation War in a compelling way, instead they are chasing after metrics and audiences which only exist on spread sheets and graphs or worse still they are simply using their positions to further their own agendas in the collective insulated bubble. Maybe it is both, they bamboozle executives with data, graphs and fancy presentations using word manipulation to hide their gross incompetence.
"how do you preserve and protect what Starfleet is in the weight of a challenge like war and the things that have to be done in war."
This quote has kind of stuck in my head, and clearly shows that the writers, producers or whoever else has zero clue on the past iterations of Star Trek or what they've done or attempted to expand. DS9 had a war arc, it showed off what happens when a threat to federation changes the very way of life, in the name of security how easily they were to giving up all of their civil liberties. They also did the episode AR-558, showing the bleak hopelessness of war, soldiers stuck there forced to hold a position, with no reinforcements or relief which might help out the war effort, people are dying for a maybe.
I'm not trying to make myself out as great or anything, but I've done creative/screen play writing as a hobby, and when you present ideas to the group you are utterly grilled to the point of saying "Why am I putting myself through this?" Because you have to be, you need to have people to utterly dissect your work. Why is this character like this? Did you show it, telegraph it previously? ST
screams to me the clear notion that Hollywood's almost incestous nature has essentially bred in a very secluded group who completely cut off from not only reality but the source material they claim to represent. While I dislike prequels in general ST could of done the Klingon Federation War in a compelling way, instead they are chasing after metrics and audiences which only exist on spread sheets and graphs or worse still they are simply using their positions to further their own agendas in the collective insulated bubble. Maybe it is both, they bamboozle executives with data, graphs and fancy presentations using word manipulation to hide their gross incompetence.
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What's so bad that Bryan Fuller himself has completely distanced himself from Discovery. He does not even mention it in his twitter or anything.
