They might get sooooo desperate that they might drag William Shatner in there to give it some cred, who knows? It would be a complete fail. Anybody have suggestions on how to fix this show?
Star Trek Discovery SUCKS.
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They might get sooooo desperate that they might drag William Shatner in there to give it some cred, who knows? It would be a complete fail. Anybody have suggestions on how to fix this show?
PussyGalore
Meow
Yeah, that will be a success, a flatulent old Kirk with a bad toupee.
Yep, but they would likely pay him a proper wage and also make the episode he appears in center around him and lavish honors and praise as he appears to demand when approached for the movies. The patterns we are seeing in the trajectory of this show are familiar.
Even Atlantis started getting the treatment near the end.
PussyGalore
Meow
Yep, but they would likely pay him a proper wage and also make the episode he appears in center around him and lavish honors and praise as he appears to demand when approached for the movies. The patterns we are seeing in the trajectory of this show are familiar.
Let's do the math:
Shatner could only play Kirk in the show -- unless they have him play Kirk's grandpa, which would be laughably cartoonish. But let's assume he plays Kirk, an old Kirk because Shatner is old. How are they going to explain meeting up with him? By jumping through time? And what would that get them? Maybe two episodes involving time travel? What's the point?
The writing on this show is just an effort in futility.
The bolded is the trope they used to birth the Kelvinverse and retroactively insert Nimoy in the 2009 movie. And they had him in the 2009 movie and Into Dumbness only for cred, and it was still a fail IMO. Of course they would use time travel to accomplish it.
They did it in Generations.These writers don't give a tribble's fart what is going on in this show canon. They already stuck Harry Mudd in there, and their Mudd took over Discovery and had the transporter rigged to respond to Q-like hand flourishes where he could "poof" crew members around in the ship at will. So...LATER in the TOS timeline, we get Harry pushing the Venus Drug and selling wives to miners on Ophiucus III, and again when he took over the planet populated by androids where Spock and Kirk shut all of them down merely by running logic games on them. They don't care about that at all! Maybe they will stick Q in there (and forget there is a Trelaine).
If a tribble farts in the forest , does anyone hear it ?
What do you think that sound they make is coming from?
heisenberg
Earl Grey
Let's stop giving the credit and attention this show is after. It's shit. Infact, shit would look better than this.The bolded is the trope they used to birth the Kelvinverse and retroactively insert Nimoy in the 2009 movie. And they had him in the 2009 movie and Into Dumbness only for cred, and it was still a fail IMO. Of course they would use time travel to accomplish it.
These writers don't give a tribble's fart what is going on in this show canon. They already stuck Harry Mudd in there, and their Mudd took over Discovery and had the transporter rigged to respond to Q-like hand flourishes where he could "poof" crew members around in the ship at will. So...LATER in the TOS timeline, we get Harry pushing the Venus Drug and selling wives to miners on Ophiucus III, and again when he took over the planet populated by androids where Spock and Kirk shut all of them down merely by running logic games on them. They don't care about that at all! Maybe they will stick Q in there (and forget there is a Trelaine).
Look at the titles of the episodes. They are CRINGEWORTHY/PRETENTIOUS
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/star-trek/250209/star-trek-discovery-news-cbs-tv
YJ02
Well Known GateFan
well....cbs all crapcess is available now through AMAZONPRIME as an add on (the have a lot of these add ons actually)
now isn't hat kind of a big F you to netflix?
cbs had made STD their biggest all access attraction and NF paid for it, yes (at lest in part)?
either its a stab in the back or NF just wants nothing to do with STD
now isn't hat kind of a big F you to netflix?
cbs had made STD their biggest all access attraction and NF paid for it, yes (at lest in part)?
either its a stab in the back or NF just wants nothing to do with STD
Amazon Prime also has Cinemax and HBO Channels. They are acting more as a broker than a provider with those add on channels. What it DOES show is desperation on the part of CBS. If they were doing great, they would not have to be trying to scrape up business on Amazon. This is also true for HBO and Cinemax streaming services, which are not all that great. Why would CBS All Access being available to buy on Amazon Prime as a channel be a negative towards Netflix? All Netflix did was pay for the first season of Dissapointery, they are not partners with CBS.
PussyGalore
Meow
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
They would be foolish to continue with Discovery if it isn't doing well on CBS All Access. At 8 million per episode, they would have to be losing money.
PussyGalore
Meow
Yes, there's no way they can spend that kind of money per episode. It's insanely unsustainable.
I think they made the same mistake that Defiance did and assumed that a large audience and fan following would gather around it and make it profitable. Defiance had nothing really to work with except a video game. But Star Trek was almost a no-brainer (they thought). It might have been if they had given us a traditional Star Trek series and saved the experiments for later, but noooo. They had to change everything and basically serve up a substitute nothing like what we wanted. You can't sub out kale for chocolate. With the main fanbase abandoning this crappy show, and the "new audience" not really forming, there is no market for Discovery merchandise and no value in personal appearances or convention business. PLUS, the membership numbers...I bet they aren't great.
PussyGalore
Meow
Yup, the folks running STD cynically thought that raping the ST fanbase would be a guaranteed path to success. Seriously, their whole approach to the ST universe has been based on cynical exploitation. There's clearly no interest from the writers when it comes to legitimately exploring the ST canon.
Defiance, while cynical, wasn't nearly as bad as STD. Obviously the show didn't derive from an established story canon so it can't be criticized for that. But it had other issues and generally wasn't good so it deserved its fate. I haven't heard anything about that show (or game) since it got axed so I doubt it's still bringing in much money. Who is watching it? Where is it airing? Is it rattling around the Netflix bucket of crap TV shows? If so, it can't be bringing in that much in royalties at this point.
At any rate, Defiance stands as a cautionary tale about the dangers of investing hundreds of millions into a TV show. Even one based on a proven winning formula like Star Trek. You'd think that anyone investing that kind of cheddar would say to themselves 'Okay, we have to hone close to that which made the original a success, namely heroic leading characters the audience can relate to'. The last thing you do is change the story so drastically that the fans don't recognize it any longer. That's like buying the company that makes Famous Amos chocolate chip cookies but then removing the chocolate chips and replacing them with rodent turds, and replacing the sugar with salt, and replacing the butter with motor oil. But you keep advertising them as Famous Amos chocolate chip cookies and you keep insisting they taste great and are a smash hit. Most importantly you insist your rodent-turd cookies are selling amazingly well but you refuse to give out the actual sales figures for cookie sales. You just keep insisting that you've shipped out record numbers of cookies since you bought the company, but you most definitely don't release the figures for the vendor returns of those same cookies. You plug your ears, close your eyes, shake your head and keep blathering to anyone foolish enough to listen that your cookies are a success.
This may sound like a crazy scenario but it's exactly what TPTB have done with Star Trek ala STD. They took a successful recipe (Star Trek) and completely changed the ingredients until the recipe no longer resembled the original (STD). And to make matters worse they insisted on still calling it the same recipe. This can only be attributed to cynical, self-delusion, which can only last so long because reality will come crashing down eventually.