SGU costs more to produce than SGA!
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stclare
Moderator & Mckay Super Fan
yep i totaly agree they have not specified and it appears to emcompass all the seasons of sga.
iratecaller
GateFans Noob
A million smackeroos more !!! Whaaaaaa?
For what?
A CG department they already had?
Ancient designed leather sofas??? (that they probably took from the location lobby)
Robert Carlyle? HAHAHA Please.
That nobody Brian J. Smith? Yeah right.
Here's the breakdown folks:
Hiring a couple of artsy geeks and giving them wicked worksations to do their 3D graphics and sound on .. yeah that must cost MILLIONS. Not.
Workstaion = 10,000$ (we're talking wicked graphics card, plotter and SSD disk, totally over the top.)
(sure they need office space too .. but I'm sure there's plenty of room)
Artist = 1,000$/day (MAX) .. that's a very high price. (133$/hour assuming 7.5 hour days)
That's 256K /year per artist folks .. and that's crazy high .. but hey it's showbiz right? Doughnuts cost 50$ in showbiz.
So let's just pretend that those TPTB f***wits are actually paying some geek 256K per year.
.. and that these priviledged a-holes are actually working ALL YEAR ROUND.
This is a little over a million dollars for the year round services of four way overpaid artists.
Compared to the 20 Millon aditonal they CLAIM to waste on SGU during a season, the CG IS NOT WHAT'S EXPENSIVE.
I refuse to beleive that.
Do you honestly think Robert Carlyle, or LDP command 100,000+ extra (compared to Shanks for instance) each per episode just because they're .. *ahem* big name actors?
If these guys are big name actors, then my god we're not watching the same movies. The satelite feeds going to JM's house must be streaming B movies from the 90's or something.
The fact is that JM and BW , and the rest of those blow hards are outright WASTING money and lining their pockets doing it.
.. i suppose they have complimentary rugged laptops, motel rooms, first class air travel too??
I think the networks should check mallozzi's pockets after they throw those bums out after Season 2 bombs.
For what?
A CG department they already had?
Ancient designed leather sofas??? (that they probably took from the location lobby)
Robert Carlyle? HAHAHA Please.
That nobody Brian J. Smith? Yeah right.
Here's the breakdown folks:
Hiring a couple of artsy geeks and giving them wicked worksations to do their 3D graphics and sound on .. yeah that must cost MILLIONS. Not.
Workstaion = 10,000$ (we're talking wicked graphics card, plotter and SSD disk, totally over the top.)
(sure they need office space too .. but I'm sure there's plenty of room)
Artist = 1,000$/day (MAX) .. that's a very high price. (133$/hour assuming 7.5 hour days)
That's 256K /year per artist folks .. and that's crazy high .. but hey it's showbiz right? Doughnuts cost 50$ in showbiz.
So let's just pretend that those TPTB f***wits are actually paying some geek 256K per year.
.. and that these priviledged a-holes are actually working ALL YEAR ROUND.
This is a little over a million dollars for the year round services of four way overpaid artists.
Compared to the 20 Millon aditonal they CLAIM to waste on SGU during a season, the CG IS NOT WHAT'S EXPENSIVE.
I refuse to beleive that.
Do you honestly think Robert Carlyle, or LDP command 100,000+ extra (compared to Shanks for instance) each per episode just because they're .. *ahem* big name actors?
If these guys are big name actors, then my god we're not watching the same movies. The satelite feeds going to JM's house must be streaming B movies from the 90's or something.
The fact is that JM and BW , and the rest of those blow hards are outright WASTING money and lining their pockets doing it.
.. i suppose they have complimentary rugged laptops, motel rooms, first class air travel too??
I think the networks should check mallozzi's pockets after they throw those bums out after Season 2 bombs.
podbaydoors
GateFans Noob
The fact that this costs so much more to make than SGA just makes it even more important for it to get higher ratings and thus far, it surely hasn't done that. SO we can take some consolation that the cost of this beast will just make it fail faster.
Yllek
GateFans Noob
Not the squeedrones. Mr Mallozzi himself. At one point he said that obviously Brad Wright had compared SGU's budget with SGA's first season's budget, subtly implying that SGA's 5th season was waaaay more expensive than SGA's 1st season (like, maybe a million per episode MORE!), because of the financial crisis, the US/Canadian dollar, Flani-- the cast's outrageous salary demands, the overhead, the expensive sets, etc.
I had the link and quote up on the old forum (which disappeared by trunk of some thieving loserpunk's car). It was in his blog.
iratecaller
GateFans Noob
Unfortunately you're right.
The money bags thrown at Brad Wright and Mallozzi didn't come with a list of mandatory requirements for the show it would seem. You know, the obvious things that any Stargate fan expects in their series. YES THE SERIES BELONGS TO THE FANS, BECAUSE WE BOUGHT IT. We bought the DVD's, the movies, subscribed to Cable, bought the Blue-Ray versions, the original movie ..everything.
Example:
TPTB: To make certain the legal aspects are all covered, although it goes without saying ....
Now Brad, the show MUST appeal to longtime fans of the franchise. Duh.
Mallozzi, this anime porn direction of yours is a no-go. You gots-to-keep the family fun and adventure. It's ok to kill bad guys even with guns, but it's NOT ok to have broom closet sex. *WHACK*
Now boys, people love heroes. Square-jawed heroes sell. Stargate is all about heroes against villains.
Follow the rules. (Stargate canon)
Stay in the box. (no drama-all-the-time)
Deliver what the fans want, and expect.
The fans are the ones who will buy into your show, so don't disapoint them.
Keep it fresh with a new cast, new bad guys, new setting and new missions, but keep the Stargate formula. It's worked rather well for 15 years.
It doesn't matter that you want to go in a diferent direction, at least you have a job and you are recognized for it.
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Of course if there was some quality assurance program in effect, you know, like a TEST AUDIENCE for the first 3 episodes (Air) , then SGU would have been re-written a few times before being presented to us.
deco
GateFans Noob
i think even anime is better them this show
ChromeToasterX
GateFans Noob
All anime is not the same, the same way all scifi isn't the same. But still, the most mediocre anime currently being produced is far more tolerable than SGU. As bad as SGU is, there is plenty of anime that is far worse for whatever reason. And stuff like Outlaw Star, Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell, and the other really good anime out there are so far above SGU that it isn't even funny.
ParagonPie
Well Known GateFan
SGU Mastercard
Design and CGI - $1'200'000
Actors fee's (annual) - $860'000
Trying to clear that fishy smell out of the sets, priceless.
For everything else, there is cancellation.
Design and CGI - $1'200'000
Actors fee's (annual) - $860'000
Trying to clear that fishy smell out of the sets, priceless.
For everything else, there is cancellation.
R
Robbie_Rocket_Pants
Guest
That's too true. Any unproven new product gets rigorously tested to ensure quality & viability before it is released & if the customers are not satisfied then it is a problem with the new model. It's is unprofessional & crass to blame & abuse an undesireable customer demographic for not liking the failed product. This isn't even a metaphor, just good business sense.
Hell, they test screen movies before general release, why shouldn't TV shows get the same treatment. In truth though, they very well may have tested it, then decided all the test viewers were idiots because they didn't like this awesome new show they were creating to redefine the franchise and bring it to a new viewer, while being an artistic marvel. Because how can anyone without an advanced degree in marketing, years of experience in TV production, and access to all the little details of the franchise possibly be able to decide when they are watching a steaming pile of crap. Certainly, such a travesty of common sense could not possibly happen and should it, it would of course be decried as a fluke by the wise and supremely intelligent powers that know all the viewers are going to be magically drawn to their creation, and will of course disregard any viewer that points out the GLARING flaws in logic and rhetoric these jackasses have perpetrated on society.
Mr. A
Super Moderator +
They do! New pilots always get screened. Just the SGU one apparently didn't.
iratecaller
GateFans Noob
This is like music geijin. What a wonderful rant!!!
AWESOME RANT!!! I wonder how long a rant like that would last on Gayteworld.
SG-Rocks
GateFans Noob
Absolutely no idea but of course it varies due to the amount of post and how elaborate the set ups are. Although the latter doesn't matter with this turd. I thought it was about ten days production on average.