Robert Cooper

[Loheat]

Being Canada's number one show is like being Canada's number one bacon. Yeah its alright on egg McMuffins but everyone knows that real bacon is about a million times better

 

[Rac80]

hmmmmmmmmmm

A long video interview with Robert Cooper:

http://www.collider.com/2010/08/04/...ert-cooper-stargate-universe-video-interview/

I haven't listen to the whole video, but the parts about the ratings and SGU's popularity are funny! SGU is according to him the most popular Stargate show worldwide! And the ratings are great! And it has tons of new viewers!

well that answers why he left sgpoo...the poor man has finally gone around the bend, lost his mind, he's DELUSIONAL. He's probably taking a nice long rest in a padded room with plenty of good meds!

 

[SG-Rocks]

He Lies! He Lies!

Hilarious, I think he's saying they dumbed down the show to pick up more bums in seats.

Hahahah he's saying the live ratings (which by the way are shit) aren't important because the new younger hip market they want doesn't watch TV.

This is too funny. Coop! The show sucks.

Mister Cooper, did you plan to have a slut character on the show? How about the angry black man?

Oh shit, I can't take this any more. "High concept television." :puke:

And who's the turd that wrote the intro? "I never watched any of the previous Stargate shows, but I’ve been very impressed with SGU (Stargate Universe). Since the show has only aired one full season and it doesn’t return until late September, I really recommend renting/buying the first season and catching up. It’s absolutely worth it." :puke:

Too funny! And it's going to get better!

 

[SG-Rocks]

It's 2010 and they put garbage on TV

Ahahahah they didn't have the money to build the bridge set first season. I thought this show had all sorts of money thrown at it. Millions and millions. Too funny.

I guess they expected it to totally fail the first season (which BTW it did, just not badly enough) and they'd have to auction off the bridge on Gayteworld. I bet that kumquat Tanith would buy it.

 

[Robbie_Rocket_Pants]

Rob Of The Roasters!

I've been watching Monkey Dust alot of late & I saw this clip & it made me laugh so hard a little bit of wee came out as it makes me think about what has happened to the Stargate franchise. The main character Roy Of The Roasters (RC Cooper/J Mallozzi/B Wright) is completely out of touch with the players on his team (fans/tv audience tastes) & his total ignorance is such that the entire football team (Stargate franchise) diminishes around him & he doesn't even notice.

This clip is a metaphor for the ignorant & directionless use of the franchise. The only part of this metaphor which has yet to be determined but will no doubt be incorrect is the very end of the clip where Roy, by himself, beats a squad of 11 players - implying that the seeming destruction of his team/Stargate franchise along the way is inconsequential as Roy/SGU is awesome enough to take the team/franchise to victory.

This is a long clip, even longer than this long arsed post by I recommend you watch it for a laugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUH40Mgr0N0

 

[ParagonPie]

At around the 20:58 mark he says this is a big spoiler when Rush finds and activates the bridge. You know what also spoils that? THE SEASON 2 TRAILER!

 

[iratecaller]

Can some Canadians and people from Europe and other places chime in on this one. PSW's ratings from the UK and Germany didn't make me think that this is the case. Is he mentioning ratings that we don't know about???

Even through my frosted-over eyeglasses and Rodney McKay overlay on my 14 inch tv, SGU is still shit in Canada. (Joking btw, but Mr. Cooper seems to try to use non-USA countries to prop up his shit show ... so he must think we're a backwards country. The ratings thread has all the proof we need.)

LOL.

Besides, why does it matter that "some country" loves SGU. It wouldn't matter to me if 24 million US citizens loved SGU. It still stinks.

If Cooper's right and that Canadians enjoy SGU more than Americans, I would be rather ashamed of my fellow countrymen.

I don't think Canadians and the rest of the non-USA world sees SGU any different than what it is to the USA tv watchers. Anybody with half a brain can see that SGU sucks. It's a shame the world is filled with morons. HAHAHAH .. (sorry, people get on my nerves these days .. lots of idiotic, disrespectful behavior) Thankfully the show has such low appeal that only a desperate few are clinging to the slippery SGU rope.

No matter how Robert Cooper likes to smell his own farts, SGU still sucks.

My neighbour's igloo has cable tv now, and he thinks SGU sucks too, Mr. Cooper.

 

[Robbie_Rocket_Pants]

Alright, I came across this video of Rob Cooper talking about SGU. I'm about 3 minutes into a 24 minute interview, and already I'm wondering about what he's saying.

He said that SGU is getting double the ratings that SG-1 and SGA got in Canada and that it is a HUGE hit overseas with large audiences. He said that it's only a niche market in America.



Can some Canadians and people from Europe and other places chime in on this one. PSW's ratings from the UK and Germany didn't make me think that this is the case. Is he mentioning ratings that we don't know about???

Here's the link:

http://www.collider.com/2010/08/04/...bert-cooper-stargate-universe-video-interview


Okay, I'm just going to be taking notes while I watch:

He said that although there's no way to prove this, he thinks that SGU is getting better ratings than SG-1 and SGA. Um, how is there no way to prove that? Isn't it called ratings??? Then he says that the live numbers for SGU are lower, but that because the demographic is younger for SGU (Is it?? I thought the average viewer in America was like 50, where it was 45-46 for SGA when you added it all up), he's saying that those younger people are watching the show in other ways. Hmmm. Sounds to me like he's spinning.

Then the interviewer points out that sci-fi is more popular now than ever, and Rob starts to spin that by saying that people that go to movies aren't the same people that watch TV. Then Rob says that sci-fi on network TV is disguised to make people watch it. He said that CSI is sci-fi to him. I hope that's a joke. Oh geez.

I get what he's trying to say about people and tech, but I think he's wrong. He said people have VCRs and don't know how to program them because it's "tech" so those are people who won't understand sci-fi. Personally, as a casual sci-fi person, I can say that I don't think it's the technical aspect of sci-fi shows that turn people off. It's what I call the "weird factor" but that's just me.

Then he starts talking about "why would you turn away from a great story to tell." Ah, yeah, why?? SGA was a great story for the first 3 -3.5 years. Why did they turn away from that and start using SGA to experiment (imo) for SGU. Had they handled the show better, it could have ended well instead of the mess that season 5 was. They certainly weren't listening to fans.

Okay, this part is sad. He talks about how True Blood and The Shield were addictive for him and that's what he wanted SGU to be. That's too bad because it's the exact opposite. SGA was addictive, and I've heard that SG-1 was addictive too, but SGU is not. They could have done more serialized stuff with SGA, and it would have been welcome. People begged them to do more character-based stuff on Atlantis because everybody loved the characters and that was a main reason to watch. Instead, they just used it as a lab rat for the last season and a half in prep for SGU.

Then he suggests that people get the SGU dvds/episodes and watch them all in a day. Wow, it's literally taken me days to watch some of those episodes. It took 4 tries over the course of like 2 days just to get through Air 1&2 because the show just plain sucks! The SGU characters suck!

He said that if someone dies on SGU, you'll have an emotional response to it. Yep, I would. Glee!!! It'd be great if they all died for good by the end of season 2.

Needless to say it just seems to be a bunch of spin to get people to watch.


UPDATE:

@PSW

I merged the 2 theads. I hadn't noticed that you started a thread on this interview already. Cheers.

This guy is like the ultimate troll, infact he is like the father of all trolls - in denial, uber-confused & pulls excuses out of his arse like corn. Some of the things he says are akin to what the fanboys say in relation to bad ratings "Oh, it's the recession" or "Oh, it's the changes in the sun's magnetism" etc. He is more out of touch with what people want than Tony Blair was at the end of his tenure............ oh yeah that's right, he quite early too

 

[SexyDexy]

True Blood has GOOD dark characters!

Oh no he DIDN'T just mention True Blood, prepare yourselves for a SexyDexy rant

Okay, this part is sad. He talks about how True Blood and The Shield were addictive for him and that's what he wanted SGU to be.

Okay I don't have the stomach to listen to this man spew his nonsensical babblings, but I nearly fell off my chair laughing when I read that bit about how he wanted SGU to be addictive like True Blood! Disregarding the fact that True Blood is a vampire show, and Stargate isn't, what makes True Blood so addictive is a) It has great writing that keeps you on the edge of your seat, b) It has complex, multi-layered characters, c) it has superbly talented actors, d) it has great cinematography/costumes/makeup/music/etc, and e) It has freaking ridiculous-sexy eye candy of all types/races/genders/sexual orientations and said eye candy gets naked a lot. Every single person who watches that show will find someone to drool over (Hehe okay I know I keep coming back to the eye candy issue in different threads, but it really does influence ratings a lot!!).

Now, I loved the family-friendly heroic-epic action adventure styles of SG-1 and SGA, but hey, if TPTB had given me a dark, edgy, R-rated Stargate in the style of True Blood, trust me, I would be lapping it up. I'm obsessed with True Blood, and when I watch it with my sister our girlish squees can be heard by the entire neighborhood - but the fact is the SGU creators are no where near talented enough to bring us the likes of True Blood. With the help of the talented casts of SG-1 and SGA, TPTB of Stargate could squeak by with less-than-perfect writing skills, but when they attempted "complex character drama" they just failed miserably.

The first thing TPTB of SGU should have done if the wanted to emulate True Blood was to get writing lessons. On second thought, though, I don't think writing lessons would have helped. To write mature character drama, you kind of have to be a well-rounded, "deep" person yourself. Shallow arrogant man-boy pricks can't write good drama. When they try, they end up with SGU.

Going back to True Blood for a minute, that show has a lot of dark, morally ambiguous characters with major flaws. Yet, somehow these characters are infinitely more sympathetic than the losers on SGU. And the reason they are more sympathetic is that in spite of all their flaws (such as, for example centuries of feeding on the blood of little children - which admittedly is way worse than anything anyone on SGU has done so far), these flawed characters still have "goodness" and true "humanity" somewhere inside of them, and they struggle to rise above their flaws. They are not whining, hedonistic, self-pitying, backstabbing losers like the SGU characters.

Sheesh and if the writers of SGU wanted to learn how to write a REAL cliffhanger they should have taken notes when they watched True Blood, instead of just drooling over the hot vampire chicks!

Okay rant over - my apologies to those of you who can't stand anything vampire-related

 

[Mr. A]

...
He said that although there's no way to prove this, he thinks that SGU is getting better ratings than SG-1 and SGA.

There might be no way to prove this either, but I think RCC is an asshole...

He said that if someone dies on SGU, you'll have an emotional response to it. Yep, I would. Glee!!!

 

[Gatefan1976]

The Shield & Vampires

@ PSW
The shield is actually a good show if you like darker character based drama's. I haven't seen a great deal of it myself due to time constraints, clashes and so on, but what I have seen is quite good.

@Sexydexy
Methinks you need to turn off SGU and read Necroscope instead my love, If you love True Blood (which I didn't mind, but I can live without) you will love Necroscope.

 

[SexyDexy]

@Sexydexy
Methinks you need to turn off SGU and read Necroscope instead my love, If you love True Blood (which I didn't mind, but I can live without) you will love Necroscope.

Thanks for the recommendation - I checked it out on wikipedia and it sounds interesting. I'll put it on my ever-expanding list of things I should read (hopefully I'll get to them someday!)

 

[Robbie_Rocket_Pants]

Some short excerpts of an interview with Robert Cooper:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/news/a278398/sgu-exec-new-season-will-be-fun.html

It is interesting to see how he and Brad Wright changed their marketing strategy. Before SGU started they emphasize all the time how different SGU is to the previous Stargate series. And now every interview they gave mentioned things which let SGU appear more similar to SG1 and SGA. They obviously try to get old Stargate fans back, but I am sure they won't succeed!

So they will publically admit that they are changing some aspects of the show back to the old formula because of vocal criticisms they have received from the "fanbase" (a broad term) & although they would never admit that we are those critics they are responding to, it must be us because we, more or less ARE the only VOCAL critics of the show - GW is censored so there is hardly any criticism there & the majority of SG fans of old just watched it, thought it was crap, changed the channel & moved on in silence. We are the most serious critics & a vocal minority of the fanbase........ definitely to be taken seriously........ but they'd never admit it of course!

They're responding to a bunch of silent critics who made a silent protest........... by not watching the damn show? This in turn created an implicit form of criticism known as shite ratings.

 

[ChromeToasterX]

So they will publically admit that they are changing some aspects of the show back to the old formula because of vocal criticisms they have received from the "fanbase" (a broad term) & although they would never admit that we are those critics they are responding to, it must be us because we, more or less ARE the only VOCAL critics of the show - GW is censored so there is hardly any criticism there & the majority of SG fans of old just watched it, thought it was crap, changed the channel & moved on in silence. We are the most serious critics & a vocal minority of the fanbase........ definitely to be taken seriously........ but they'd never admit it of course!

They're responding to a bunch of silent critics who made a silent protest........... by not watching the damn show? This in turn created an implicit form of criticism known as shite ratings.

To be fair, we're not the only ones criticizing the show. Every time there's an SGU thread on Spacebattles.com, there are plenty of people criticizing it there. The only reason I bring that up is because some of the SG production staff apparently check the forum, based on some of the commentary on the DVDs (they don't outright state it, but if you pay attention to what they say and some of the SG threads on SB.com, you'll know what they're talking about).

I wouldn't be surprised if they lurked in a bunch of forums to see what people were saying and possibly bilking ideas for improving the show. Of course, knowing these guys, they'll find some way to fuck that up.

 

[Robbie_Rocket_Pants]

To be fair, we're not the only ones criticizing the show. Every time there's an SGU thread on Spacebattles.com, there are plenty of people criticizing it there. The only reason I bring that up is because some of the SG production staff apparently check the forum, based on some of the commentary on the DVDs (they don't outright state it, but if you pay attention to what they say and some of the SG threads on SB.com, you'll know what they're talking about).

I wouldn't be surprised if they lurked in a bunch of forums to see what people were saying and possibly bilking ideas for improving the show. Of course, knowing these guys, they'll find some way to fuck that up.

Well even if there are other critics on other sites which TPTB lurk on regularly, we must be one of them too being that we no doubt hold some of the same views as those on other sites (SGU is the common denominator) TPTB can't be selective with which set of critical fans they which to listen to if they want to appease as many of the fanbase as possible.

 

[GetMallozziFired]

Yep, more insults. That's why I won't be watching the show, and I'm just watching the ratings.

Same here, only thing i am interested in is how the ratings are gonna drop..the faster the better.
I do want the franchise to continue and i am most willing to give them another chance to get things right..fire mallozzi, the entire writing staff and start anew, heck im sure there are startrek and B5writers out there that could do good to the franchise, and probably alot better than those in charge now.

you dont have to go to the other side of the universe to get a decent stargate story..the galaxy is big enough as it is, im sure then can whip something interesting .No MORE WALKING SUSHI PLZ

Stargate fans are very passionnate when it comes to the show, heck there's nothing good on tv..give us something we can love again, it took 15 years to create something awesome, plz dont try to screw it up!

 

[stclare]

this is quite interesting new interview being done with RCC tweeters were asked to give there questions here http://twitter.com/AjayFry however if you read down you will see our friend Malibunextyear getting in on the action.

 

[iratecaller]

Twitter crap.

this is quite interesting new interview being done with RCC tweeters were asked to give there questions here http://twitter.com/AjayFry however if you read down you will see our friend Malibunextyear getting in on the action.

I can't make heads or tails of this twitter crap, it all looks like noise with '@' signs, advertising and very little coherent sentences. (.. and i've been programming for 20 years so i'm used to lots of symbols on computer screens .. but this twitter crap seems like a degeneration of communication to me) .

What exactly is being said ? I looked on the page but can't find the interview. I saw a message from malibunextyear though it doesn't seem to say much.

Am I just getting old or somethin? .. call me 'Pops'.

 

[SexyDexy]

I can't make heads or tails of this twitter crap, it all looks like noise with '@' signs, advertising and very little coherent sentences. (.. and i've been programming for 20 years so i'm used to lots of symbols on computer screens .. but this twitter crap seems like a degeneration of communication to me) .

What exactly is being said ? I looked on the page but can't find the interview. I saw a message from malibunextyear though it doesn't seem to say much.

Am I just getting old or somethin? .. call me 'Pops'.

Twitter has a primer somewhere that explains all the abbreviations. Twitter is basically a "micro-blogging" site, so everyone's page is like a blog consisting of 140 character posts. That page that is linked to here doesn't actually show Malibu's message, it shows the dude's response to her comment. Her message would show up on her own Twitter page, with an @ mention of the guy she's talking to. So, one person's Twitter feed only shows their own comments, I believe. When you talk about someone else on Twitter, you put the @Username, and then Twitter alerts that person they have been talked about. So when the @malibunextyear appears on the guy's page, that is his response to her @mention of him. To see what she wrote, we'd have to go to her twitter page...I think...maybe I don't explain it or understand it very well though.

The # signs are topic identifiers, so #SGU would mean you are talking about SGU, and you could tag your Tweet with #SGU if you wanted it to count towards the "trending" topics (the tags that show up the most, are 'hot' topics). And the RT means you are retweeting (basically copying someone's tweet and posting it on your own Twitter page - but you are supposed to RT cuz it helps spread the word about things).

Anyways I don't have my own twitter account but I had to read up on how Twitter works recently for a work thing. Maybe someone who actually uses it all the time can explain better

 

[SexyDexy]

Airing tonight it looks like?

Thanks for the explanation, but it seems like too much hard work following twitter talk.

Do you know how to access the Cooper interview.

If it is this one:

http://www.spacecast.com/article/SGU-Malice3b-Robert-C-Cooper-Guest-Hosts-InnerSPACE

then I don't think it comes out until tonight.