Briangate78
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BTW check out these Sales ranks on Amazon.com
SGU - S1 - #6194
SGA - S5 - #2811
SGA - S4 - #5120
SGA - S3 - #5105
SGU - S1 - #6194
SGA - S5 - #2811
SGA - S4 - #5120
SGA - S3 - #5105
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- Thread starter Mr. A
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ChromeToasterX
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That probably has a lot to do with heavy-handed focus on the negative aspects of the main characters from the beginning of the show. When you get all the bad parts of people shoved in your face, it makes it really hard to like them. And the characters that were likable were usually B cast members who never really got more than a few minutes of screentime per episode. Hell, in terms of the female characters, this chart (from 4chan!) sums it all up pretty well:
The fact that this chart even exists says a lot about the writing on SGU.
Gatefan1976
Well Known GateFan
That probably has a lot to do with heavy-handed focus on the negative aspects of the main characters from the beginning of the show. When you get all the bad parts of people shoved in your face, it makes it really hard to like them. And the characters that were likable were usually B cast members who never really got more than a few minutes of screentime per episode. Hell, in terms of the female characters, this chart (from 4chan!) sums it all up pretty well:
The fact that this chart even exists says a lot about the writing on SGU.
I cannot express my hilarity at that chart without breaking forum rules, I'll leave it as "I agree"
OMG...I busted a gut over that!
Under Chloe, the Role says: USELESS.
I think Matt Scott would disagree!
That probably has a lot to do with heavy-handed focus on the negative aspects of the main characters from the beginning of the show. When you get all the bad parts of people shoved in your face, it makes it really hard to like them. And the characters that were likable were usually B cast members who never really got more than a few minutes of screentime per episode. Hell, in terms of the female characters, this chart (from 4chan!) sums it all up pretty well:
The fact that this chart even exists says a lot about the writing on SGU.
Under Chloe, the Role says: USELESS.
I think Matt Scott would disagree!
Briangate78
GateFans Noob
That probably has a lot to do with heavy-handed focus on the negative aspects of the main characters from the beginning of the show. When you get all the bad parts of people shoved in your face, it makes it really hard to like them. And the characters that were likable were usually B cast members who never really got more than a few minutes of screentime per episode. Hell, in terms of the female characters, this chart (from 4chan!) sums it all up pretty well:
The fact that this chart even exists says a lot about the writing on SGU.
I cannot stand when people call the SG-1 and SGA characters cookie-cutters or 2D. The SGA and SG-1 had more dynamics and depth than anyone on SGU.
BTW, the Chloe one is hilarious, lol. Useless.
Briangate78
GateFans Noob
Im soooo not surprised!
LOL, and people think MGM will chose a SGU movie. Well they did go bankrupt once before for poor decision making, lol.
shavedape
Well Known GateFan
SPOT. ON.
Someone PLEASE send this chart to Joe Mallozzi!
That probably has a lot to do with heavy-handed focus on the negative aspects of the main characters from the beginning of the show. When you get all the bad parts of people shoved in your face, it makes it really hard to like them. And the characters that were likable were usually B cast members who never really got more than a few minutes of screentime per episode. Hell, in terms of the female characters, this chart (from 4chan!) sums it all up pretty well:
The fact that this chart even exists says a lot about the writing on SGU.
Someone PLEASE send this chart to Joe Mallozzi!
Gatefan1976
Well Known GateFan
Has anyone else noticed that the popularity of the female characters on SGU is almost inversely proportionate to the amount of screen time they have had?
Wellll..........
Well, Amanda Perry didnt have that much airtime and I believe I used these exact words to describe her: "The actress that plays Amanda Perry is the hottest babe I have ever seen on ANY Stargate show." Im glad the chart maker agrees with me! Personality-9, Hotness-9
Funny how they gave Chloe a 5 in hotness 
Well, Amanda Perry didnt have that much airtime and I believe I used these exact words to describe her: "The actress that plays Amanda Perry is the hottest babe I have ever seen on ANY Stargate show." Im glad the chart maker agrees with me! Personality-9, Hotness-9
Funny how they gave Chloe a 5 in hotness
Gatefan1976
Well Known GateFan
Well, Amanda Perry didnt have that much airtime and I believe I used these exact words to describe her: "The actress that plays Amanda Perry is the hottest babe I have ever seen on ANY Stargate show." Im glad the chart maker agrees with me! Personality-9, Hotness-9
You should see her in "supernatual" then.........
heisenberg
Earl Grey
What's funny is that Stargate SG-1/SGA characters were more realistic than SGU
Someone PLEASE send this chart to Joe Mallozzi!
She is shockingly beautiful.
She is shockingly stunning IMO. Awesomely beautiful...wow.
LMAO!
You should see her in "supernatual" then.........
She is shockingly stunning IMO. Awesomely beautiful...wow.
What's funny is that Stargate SG-1/SGA characters were more realistic than SGU
LMAO!
heisenberg
Earl Grey
I dare someone to post it at gateworld and syfy forum 
Mr. A
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And that coming from a SGU fan!
Interesting observation! :beckettu:
johnsheppard
GateFans Noob
Interesting to see how some show can stay alive after their end and others like sgu not.I agree it's totally related to the connection created between likeable characters characterization of the actors and audience.How the audience care about the characters.I don't care of sgu ones.
johnsheppard
GateFans Noob
Interesting too the comparison between sgu season1 and SGA season 5.That shows how successful SGA is.
YoshiKart64
Well Known GateFan
Young and Rush make SGU for me. Greer's also pretty awesome and, for me at least, they've proved more interesting than Teyla or Ronan ever did.
How to say this and stay within the CCPG....
Well, Rush is even less psychopathic than Koyla or Anubis, he is much less macho than Ronan or Sheppard or Jack or Tealc...he is Baltar from BSG. A man like him would never be hired by the Air Force or a government because he is a one-man show. His presence in SGU is to be "the Baltar knockoff". IMO. His character may be interesting to you, but WHY is he part of Homeworld Command and why is he on Destiny? Greer....the 20-something Master Sergeant? To a non-military casual watcher, this goes unnoticed. But there is NO WAY Greer could become a Master Sergrant at that age. Teyla was the leader of her people, Ronon was a fugitive from the Wraith. Their alien backstory (although never fully explored) was far more interesting than any of the character portrayals in SGU, hence the large following of those characters (Teyla and Ronon) as opposed to ANY character in SGU (who seem to be almost universally loathed).
Perhaps you could have simply said how much you loved Rush and Greer rather than adding in that they were more interesting tha Teyla or Ronon. Given the fate and history of SGU, any comparison to any other Stargate show (except Infinity) seems rather comical.
I actually thought Greer was interesting until he started paying homage to Young, and pointing loaded weapons at unarmed civilians (and cocking the trigger). Would you find him interesting if it was real life? I would find him...threatening and unstable.
YoshiKart64
Well Known GateFan
How to say this and stay within the CCPG....
Well, Rush is even less psychopathic than Koyla or Anubis, he is much less macho than Ronan or Sheppard or Jack or Tealc...he is Baltar from BSG. A man like him would never be hired by the Air Force or a government because he is a one-man show. His presence in SGU is to be "the Baltar knockoff". IMO. His character may be interesting to you, but WHY is he part of Homeworld Command and why is he on Destiny? Greer....the 20-something Master Sergeant? To a non-military casual watcher, this goes unnoticed. But there is NO WAY Greer could become a Master Sergrant at that age. Teyla was the leader of her people, Ronon was a fugitive from the Wraith. Their alien backstory (although never fully explored) was far more interesting than any of the character portrayals in SGU, hence the large following of those characters (Teyla and Ronon) as opposed to ANY character in SGU (who seem to be almost universally loathed).
Perhaps you could have simply said how much you loved Rush and Greer rather than adding in that they were more interesting tha Teyla or Ronon. Given the fate and history of SGU, any comparison to any other Stargate show (except Infinity) seems rather comical.
I actually thought Greer was interesting until he started paying homage to Young, and pointing loaded weapons at unarmed civilians (and cocking the trigger). Would you find him interesting if it was real life? I would find him...threatening and unstable.
I never really found Teyla or Ronan compelling, nothing against people who like those characters but they just did nothing for me. I was just trying to show how Young, Rush and Greer (again imo) are more interesting than some of the older cast. The episode "Trial and Error" kind of shows why I like Young. While it might be a bit unbelievable that he had any kind of command position in his condition, his breakdown has been interesting. If I can suspend belief for Teal'c and Ronan suddenly joining top secret important teams, Sheppard being second in command despite only joining the expedition a few days before (and many other nitpicks across 15 seasons) I can do it here, especially if it means the characters have unexpected qualities. That scene in Pathogen (I think...) were Greer is asking for Chloe's forgiveness - its things like that keeping me attached to the show. I thought it was some great acting and gave a great sense of depth to his character.
Universe isn't perfect and it has more than a few issues, but theres a lot going on there that's really compelling for me. It's not so clear cut as moving from a great characters (Atlantis) to shoddy ones (Universe), the former had more than its share of problems too. At the end of the day though, I enjoyed both.