Ratings II

Mr. A

Super Moderator +
So the spin is that at least 200,000 people weren't capable of remembering that the show began an hour earlier, on the old BH spot. Oh, no, wait: it's those stupid Nielsen box owners who screwed up again! Where do they find these people anyway? :P
 

Tropicana

Council Member
I thought only intelligent people watches SGU, surely these so called "intelligent" people know how to use a TV Guide, especially one embedded with the SAT/Cable - you know the onscreen hub screen.
 

Rac80

The Belle of the Ball
I thought only intelligent people watches SGU, surely these so called "intelligent" people know how to use a TV Guide, especially one embedded with the SAT/Cable - you know the onscreen hub screen.

and supposedly they are the ones soooooooooooooo into technology! :facepalm: will no one admit the show stinks and that is why the ratings are terrible?
 

Tropicana

Council Member
and supposedly they are the ones soooooooooooooo into technology! :facepalm: will no one admit the show stinks and that is why the ratings are terrible?
If anyone knows how to DVR and whatever, I say they know how use the EPG (Electronic Program Guide), even so-called intelligent people that watches SGU.

Here's an example of Sky's EPG.

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Fool proof.
 
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Graybrew1

Guest
I think that not being after the season finale of Being Human like it was last week, probably accounts for alot of the drop.
But also, many people have just given up and said goodbye already. To SGU and SG. :icon_cry:
 
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Stonelesscutter

Guest
You know it just struck me that even though SGU isn't an exceptionally great show, it probably would have received better ratings if it hadn't been on SyFy.
I mean, these days, the channel just sucks right? Who would want to pay extra to be able to receive a channel that airs wrestling crap and not so great scifi shows, especially if you can download the stuff you want without having to take all the other junk that comes with the channel.
What I'm saying is it's not so much SGU itself that's killing the ratings, it's because of SyFY!
 

Tropicana

Council Member
You know it just struck me that even though SGU isn't an exceptionally great show, it probably would have received better ratings if it hadn't been on SyFy.
I mean, these days, the channel just sucks right? Who would want to pay extra to be able to receive a channel that airs wrestling crap and not so great scifi shows, especially if you can download the stuff you want without having to take all the other junk that comes with the channel.
What I'm saying is it's not so much SGU itself that's killing the ratings, it's because of SyFY!
Well it helps if the quality is exceptional from the get go. Even normal broadcast channels like the major powerhouses like ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, The CW, My13, hell even Telemundo - they won't take SGU. It's simply trash. Costs too much, end product - awful.
 

shavedape

Well Known GateFan
You know it just struck me that even though SGU isn't an exceptionally great show, it probably would have received better ratings if it hadn't been on SyFy.
I mean, these days, the channel just sucks right? Who would want to pay extra to be able to receive a channel that airs wrestling crap and not so great scifi shows, especially if you can download the stuff you want without having to take all the other junk that comes with the channel.
What I'm saying is it's not so much SGU itself that's killing the ratings, it's because of SyFY!

HUH???
 

YoshiKart64

Well Known GateFan
SGU would have done better on a channel better suited to a drama audience. Same for Caprica, had the show launched on HBO, with its critical acclaim, it would still be around. The very fact it was on Syfy seemed to stop people taking it seriously as the channel is casual skewing and just doesn't have viewers interested in that sort of thing.

I'm not really sure what Syfy is aiming for at the moment - casual is all I can gleam. Any show that aims for an adult audience, i.e. Sanctuary, gets punished in the ratings versus the family friendly ones.

you finally GOT A CLUE!!!!:rotflmao:I hope it didn't hurt too bad! :P

I think you misunderstood. Your comment only went to prove that you think your opinion is more valid than others - people who have a different view HAVE too be corrected?

And of course every good review was a 'shill' review. Either that or the reviewer isn't qualified. Or they don't understand science fiction. God forbid that some qualidied people actually enjoyed the show - we have to find reasons to discredit them quick!
 

stclare

Moderator & Mckay Super Fan
You know it just struck me that even though SGU isn't an exceptionally great show, it probably would have received better ratings if it hadn't been on SyFy.
I mean, these days, the channel just sucks right? Who would want to pay extra to be able to receive a channel that airs wrestling crap and not so great scifi shows, especially if you can download the stuff you want without having to take all the other junk that comes with the channel.
What I'm saying is it's not so much SGU itself that's killing the ratings, it's because of SyFY!

But then why are other shows doing better? and if as you say its because sgu was on syfy channel then where did all the people come from who watched the first few episodes? id buy your theory if the show had never had good ratings but it did and they declined before the move from friday to tuesday.

I had to except the same for sga. i love that show like woah, but ratings went down from the premiere just as they did for sgu. and the only accounting for that is that people didnt want to watch it, just like sgu. the only difference is the amount of people who switched off. Downloading was just as prevlant in 2008/09 as it is now. atlantis was one of the most downloaded shows around, so no difference there either.
 

shavedape

Well Known GateFan
Sorry but the HBO defense ain't cutting it

SGU would have done better on a channel better suited to a drama audience. Same for Caprica, had the show launched on HBO, with its critical acclaim, it would still be around. The very fact it was on Syfy seemed to stop people taking it seriously as the channel is casual skewing and just doesn't have viewers interested in that sort of thing.

I'm not really sure what Syfy is aiming for at the moment - casual is all I can gleam. Any show that aims for an adult audience, i.e. Sanctuary, gets punished in the ratings versus the family friendly ones.

Well every show can't be on HBO. I could use your analogy for just about every show that's ever failed. So let's just be real about the HBO thing as it's hardly legitimate as arguments go.

Now, I'm no expert on how HBO counts ratings and how they make their programming decisions but I know they take ratings into account. In its current form SGU would be just as slow and boring and flawed on HBO as it has been on SyFy. I don't see people tuning into SGU simply because it would be on HBO. And I don't see HBO running a ratings loser for multiple seasons as it makes no sense. Their primary objective is to get eyeballs on the screen. Case in point "Carnivale" got canceled from HBO due to poor ratings, exactly like SGU.

From Wiki:

Early reviews praised the style of Carnivàle but questioned the approach and execution of the story. Carnivàle's first episode set a new audience record for an HBO original series,[2] but the show was unable to retain its ratings in its second season. Carnivàle was canceled after 24 episodes, cutting its intended six-season run short by four seasons.

Needless to say the same applies to "Caprica" and also applies to "drama-themed" channels as well be it AMC or USA or whatever. ;)
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
Dude...

SGU would have done better on a channel better suited to a drama audience. Same for Caprica, had the show launched on HBO, with its critical acclaim, it would still be around. The very fact it was on Syfy seemed to stop people taking it seriously as the channel is casual skewing and just doesn't have viewers interested in that sort of thing.

SGU would have failed no matter what channel it was on. And speculation of how it would have done on HBO is pointless, really. The show was most definitely a soap opera set on a spaceship, but the showrunners stopped short of saying so. They did say in the beginning that it was a character-driven, serialized drama. But they were still calling it "space opera" and some of its fans insisted it was science fiction. Whatever it was, it was not good enough drama to make the grade on HBO or CW or any drama channel. There is just to much GOOD drama to watch instead. The writing is what killed the show, not the channel or the day of the week or the phases of the Moon. Im sure we will hear more speculations like this from confused SGU fans after the last episode has aired.

"SGU would have been a blockbuster if it was aired with the soap operas in the morning!"
"If SGU had been on Wednesday at 8:00pm....."
"If people had been AWARE of SGU, then...."

The SGUawareness campaign made the same mistakes, and NONE of them would admit that the show was just horribly written and the characters and stories uninteresting. But that was the case and it got every chance it could have to make it and it failed. If any channel (including HBO) airs it in reruns, it will still not draw an audience.

I'm not really sure what Syfy is aiming for at the moment - casual is all I can gleam. Any show that aims for an adult audience, i.e. Sanctuary, gets punished in the ratings versus the family friendly ones.
Sanctuary is doing fine...not sure what you mean by that.

I think you misunderstood. Your comment only went to prove that you think your opinion is more valid than others - people who have a different view HAVE too be corrected?

And of course every good review was a 'shill' review. Either that or the reviewer isn't qualified. Or they don't understand science fiction. God forbid that some qualified people actually enjoyed the show - we have to find reasons to discredit them quick!
Reading reviews on IMDb or elsewhere which squee about SGU are ALWAYS full of lies and misrepresentations, just like the SGU fan made videos which show battles and action when there was very little of that in the show. And the majority of those positive reviews always found a need to add in that SGU was better than SG-1 or SGA, rather than try to stand on its own merits...thats because it had so few merits.
 

Mr. A

Super Moderator +
Some posts have been temporarily removed from this public thread. Rac80 and Yoshi, please read the rules.

If you have a disagreement with someone’s point of view, address the subject, not the person.

If they get moved to a FH thread you will be informed and may continue there if BOTH wish to.
 

mzzz

Well Known GateFan
You don't go from 2.3 to 1.1 because it was the wrong channel or the wrong night, it just didn't interest viewers to the point where that many people just tuned off. I think that was just in season one, yeah? And people did tune off, they didn't switch to dvr, they lost chunks of viewers. And aren't the recent dvd numbers only bringing it up to 1.2 ish? That's about as much live viewers atlantis used to have.
 

shavedape

Well Known GateFan
You can go into Flame Hell, you know....

I second this. It's been far too long since we've been privy to a real knock-down, drag out, hair-pullin' cat fight. Come on, FLAME HELL is calling, it wants your love!
 

Rac80

The Belle of the Ball
game set and match

SGU would have done better on a channel better suited to a drama audience. Same for Caprica, had the show launched on HBO, with its critical acclaim, it would still be around. The very fact it was on Syfy seemed to stop people taking it seriously as the channel is casual skewing and just doesn't have viewers interested in that sort of thing.

I'm not really sure what Syfy is aiming for at the moment - casual is all I can gleam. Any show that aims for an adult audience, i.e. Sanctuary, gets punished in the ratings versus the family friendly ones.



I think you misunderstood. Your comment only went to prove that you think your opinion is more valid than others - people who have a different view HAVE too be corrected?

And of course every good review was a 'shill' review. Either that or the reviewer isn't qualified. Or they don't understand science fiction. God forbid that some qualidied people actually enjoyed the show - we have to find reasons to discredit them quick!

try the chicago trib's Maureen Ryan...hers is an opinion I value...and we remember how BW got the short end of that stick don't we? ;)
 
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