Mr Mallozzi, PLEASE WAKE UP and stop telling people "those angry Atlantis fans" are the problem.

Overmind One

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First off, this is a PERSONAL message to you Mallozzi, and I dont speak for the other people here.

This thread is being started because I want to focus on a specific subject: Why do you blame "those angry Atlantis fans" for everything wrong with Stargate Universe? From the lies you have told about the Dragon Con most recently, to the lie you supported which said that this website had made some sort of death threats against actors and their families.

Honestly, Joe. :facepalm:

You claimed on your blog most recently that this website has some sort of "mission statement" and that our goal here is to get Stargate Universe canceled so that a way can be made to bring Atlantis back. Really? :icon_lol:. I dont think anyone here seriously thinks that Atlantis can be brought back, since the sets have been sold off, the actors have moved on to other things, and of course, you and your buddies have shown NO interest in doing so. No, we DONT think it is coming back. But you are right about one thing...we DO want Stargate Universe cancelled (well, most of us do). I want it canceled, and I dont care if there is no more Stargate for a few years, as long as you and your cohorts are finally FORCED to move on to other things more suited to your writing abilities...say, daytime soap or Saturday morning cartoons? Snark aside, what is the reason you show such obvious disdain for Atlantis, its actors, its fans, and ESPECIALLY Joe Flanigan? :mallozzicry:

My personal theory is that they made you feel like an idiot with your camera, your chocolate and food fetish, and other grass-eating ways (ask one of your Japanese girlfriends what soushoku danshi means). Im sure it was nothing more than the usual horseplay that happens amongst masculine men, and you were a favorite target. I imagine that Joe Flanigan and Jason Momoa probably pulled pranks and played jokes on you that made you so angry that you wanted to punch one of them (but you sooo couldnt). :jmm: You seem to be continuing to hold a grudge, and you obviously are not over it. You blame Joe, Atlantis, its fans, its very existence. If you could, you would have it forgotten and forever cloaked. But SG-1 is still okay in your book. A theory, but I bet Im not off the mark by much.

Your nemesis?:

joe_flanigan_01.jpg

I can imagine your pain. Here we have a good looking, charismatic man with a great sense of humor and a huge following, and he is the Alpha male you wish you were. The epitome of the "square jawed hero" you will never be. It would have been better for you to have accepted your role in the class "C" male category and made friends with Flanigan. Perhaps you could have scored with the groupies he rejected? :)

Now, you are waffling on the hard questions your regular blog readers are asking. They remember you talking about the Atlantis movie, a possible SG-1 movie, but your answer to people who ask is that you think that SGU will get priority for a movie above Atlantis or SG-1. WTF? What sort of sense does it make to take a failing show which will be most likely canceled for ratings, has a "fanbase" of less than 1.5 viewers, and that nobody is asking for...and make a movie out of it? :facepalm:

Atlantis fans know their show is gone. It wont be back, and THEY KNOW THAT. I loved SG-1 and Atlantis alike, but I would rather see the franchise go into stasis for several years (or as long as it takes to get rid of you and everyone connected with the Stargate franchise at the moment), and get a real reboot from more capable writers. I also know that at the San Diego Comic Con, Devlin and Emmerich stated that they want to write a sequel to the original Stargate Movie.

http://scifipulse.net/?p=14959
http://blog.moviefone.com/2009/10/15/devlin-and-emmerich-are-both-interested-in-stargate-sequels/

The failure of Stargate Universe is YOUR fault, shared with Wright and Cooper. Atlantis fans have little to do with it, and its also SG-1 fans who dont like Stargate Universe. Why should we? Its a soap opera, and we are science fiction fans. But we still love Stargate. This new show of yours is only called Stargate, but its not Stargate.

As soon as MGM is back on its feet, perhaps they might consider selling the rights to Stargate. I sure hope that happens, because Stargate Universe can do nothing but damage what little enthusiasm is left.

[/SNARK]
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
This was triggered by one of J Mozz's blog posts.

Did I miss some JM vs JF drama?

Please fill me in (no homo).

According to the mailbag comment on this page: http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/october-9-2010-montreal-doings-more-mailbag/ where he says this:

Jaso967060 writes: “Heck I think alot of people from “that other site” could be won back if some changes are made. (Finding out the Destinys Mission and the crew working together more instead of tearing each other down…and having more action…changes like that.)”


Answer: Disagree. Given that their deluded mission statement is to see SGU cancelled in order to pave the way for an SGA return, I doubt that very much.

WTF? First, he chimes in on the whole false death threat thing, then he lies about some alleged "rude Atlantis fan" incident at the Dragon Con, the likes of which prompted the convention organizers to address his lies. He didnt apologize, and he still maintains this happened, even though he didnt bother to go to the convention. This dude is seriously deluded!
 

Loheat

GateFans Cadet
According to the mailbag comment on this page: http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/october-9-2010-montreal-doings-more-mailbag/ where he says this:



WTF? First, he chimes in on the whole false death threat thing, then he lies about some alleged "rude Atlantis fan" incident at the Dragon Con, the likes of which prompted the convention organizers to address his lies. He didnt apologize, and he still maintains this happened, even though he didnt bother to go to the convention. This dude is seriously deluded!
Are you sure hes not talking about a different site? Maybe "sgusucksandshouldbecancelledsosgacanreturn.com?" I just find it odd that he connects this site with Atlantis so much. Asking for more action, teamwork, and stuff isn't that unreasonable, and instead of being a man and admitting that maybe people find some things lacking with the show he automatically assumes that the dissenters are just bitter SGA fans
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
LMAO!

Are you sure hes not talking about a different site? Maybe "sgusucksandshouldbecancelledsosgacanreturn.com?"

:rotflmao:

I just find it odd that he connects this site with Atlantis so much. Asking for more action, teamwork, and stuff isn't that unreasonable, and instead of being a man and admitting that maybe people find some things lacking with the show he automatically assumes that the dissenters are just bitter SGA fans
Me too. He doesnt just say "Stargate fans from the old shows", he specifically says ATLANTIS fans. And since SGU came out, he acts as though Atlantis never existed. There was plenty of SG-1 tie-in for the new show (which fell flat, btw), but Atlantis wasnt even mentioned! Crossover for Daniel, Jack and Sam, but not even a mention of McKay or Shep or the fact that Atlantis is/was sitting in San Francisco harbor? Not making sense. And the video shown in the mailbag thread shows he didnt even say goodbye to Flanigan in his farewell video. JEALOUSY perhaps? :jmm:

I wouldnt have a problem with his assumptions if he didnt present his fantasies about alleged slights from "rude Atlantis fans" as fact when they are delusions. I would love to have been there when the incident happened with one of the male Atlantis cast members took a dump in his chocolates box. The look on his face was probably PRICELESS! I can imagine Joe and Jason laughing about it over a stout of Guinness in a pub!
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
The thread is about "those angry Atlantis fans", not JF vs JM.

Did you pick the right quote? hows does that have anything to do with JM vs JF?

I made the thread to talk about why Mallozzi is constantly finding ways (or inventing them) to blame Atlantis fans for the failure of SGU. I speculated that it could be a result of the "unverified) feud between Joe Flanigan and Joseph Mallozzi. You arent aware of the rumblings about that?
 

Spaceman XIII

GateFans Noob
First off, this is a PERSONAL message to you Mallozzi, and I dont speak for the other people here.

This thread is being started because I want to focus on a specific subject: Why do you blame "those angry Atlantis fans" for everything wrong with Stargate Universe? From the lies you have told about the Dragon Con most recently, to the lie you supported which said that this website had made some sort of death threats against actors and their families.

Honestly, Joe. :facepalm:

You claimed on your blog most recently that this website has some sort of "mission statement" and that our goal here is to get Stargate Universe canceled so that a way can be made to bring Atlantis back. Really? :icon_lol:. I dont think anyone here seriously thinks that Atlantis can be brought back, since the sets have been sold off, the actors have moved on to other things, and of course, you and your buddies have shown NO interest in doing so. No, we DONT think it is coming back. But you are right about one thing...we DO want Stargate Universe cancelled (well, most of us do). I want it canceled, and I dont care if there is no more Stargate for a few years, as long as you and your cohorts are finally FORCED to move on to other things more suited to your writing abilities...say, daytime soap or Saturday morning cartoons? Snark aside, what is the reason you show such obvious disdain for Atlantis, its actors, its fans, and ESPECIALLY Joe Flanigan? :mallozzicry:

My personal theory is that they made you feel like an idiot with your camera, your chocolate and food fetish, and other grass-eating ways (ask one of your Japanese girlfriends what soushoku danshi means). Im sure it was nothing more than the usual horseplay that happens amongst masculine men, and you were a favorite target. I imagine that Joe Flanigan and Jason Momoa probably pulled pranks and played jokes on you that made you so angry that you wanted to punch one of them (but you sooo couldnt). :jmm: You seem to be continuing to hold a grudge, and you obviously are not over it. You blame Joe, Atlantis, its fans, its very existence. If you could, you would have it forgotten and forever cloaked. But SG-1 is still okay in your book. A theory, but I bet Im not off the mark by much.

Your nemesis?:

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I can imagine your pain. Here we have a good looking, charismatic man with a great sense of humor and a huge following, and he is the Alpha male you wish you were. The epitome of the "square jawed hero" you will never be. It would have been better for you to have accepted your role in the class "C" male category and made friends with Flanigan. Perhaps you could have scored with the groupies he rejected? :)

Now, you are waffling on the hard questions your regular blog readers are asking. They remember you talking about the Atlantis movie, a possible SG-1 movie, but your answer to people who ask is that you think that SGU will get priority for a movie above Atlantis or SG-1. WTF? What sort of sense does it make to take a failing show which will be most likely canceled for ratings, has a "fanbase" of less than 1.5 viewers, and that nobody is asking for...and make a movie out of it? :facepalm:

Atlantis fans know their show is gone. It wont be back, and THEY KNOW THAT. I loved SG-1 and Atlantis alike, but I would rather see the franchise go into stasis for several years (or as long as it takes to get rid of you and everyone connected with the Stargate franchise at the moment), and get a real reboot from more capable writers. I also know that at the San Diego Comic Con, Devlin and Emmerich stated that they want to write a sequel to the original Stargate Movie.

http://scifipulse.net/?p=14959
http://blog.moviefone.com/2009/10/15/devlin-and-emmerich-are-both-interested-in-stargate-sequels/

The failure of Stargate Universe is YOUR fault, shared with Wright and Cooper. Atlantis fans have little to do with it, and its also SG-1 fans who dont like Stargate Universe. Why should we? Its a soap opera, and we are science fiction fans. But we still love Stargate. This new show of yours is only called Stargate, but its not Stargate.

As soon as MGM is back on its feet, perhaps they might consider selling the rights to Stargate. I sure hope that happens, because Stargate Universe can do nothing but damage what little enthusiasm is left.

[/SNARK]

Well said! When did Mallozzi talk about these imaginary "death threats"? I know he is running out of excuses but that's just fucking ridiculous. :facepalm:
 

MetalFoldingChair

GateFans Noob
Well said! When did Mallozzi talk about these imaginary "death threats"? I know he is running out of excuses but that's just fucking ridiculous. :facepalm:

"If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail."
Abraham Maslow

Looks like Mallozzi's "hammer" is his persecution complex and the excuse factory between his ears.
 

Nani

GateFans Noob
WTF? First, he chimes in on the whole false death threat thing, then he lies about some alleged "rude Atlantis fan" incident at the Dragon Con, the likes of which prompted the convention organizers to address his lies. He didnt apologize, and he still maintains this happened, even though he didnt bother to go to the convention. This dude is seriously deluded!

I've been trying to find DragonCon response regarding this "rude SGA fans" deal. When I googled it, I found this - this thread is #2 result on the search :) hehe

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Now, if someone could direct me to some links where DragonCon officials address that, I'll send them some champagne truffles ;)
 

Nani

GateFans Noob
Thank you very much, Atlantis4Life!

As promised ;)
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Rac80

The Belle of the Ball
wrong sex!

Having thought about this thread title and why it doesn't sit right with me, I decided it should be Ms. Mallozzi cause the way he squeals about things. :P
 

Rac80

The Belle of the Ball
...don't squeal. :) (Well, I might.. if some nice gentleman came up with a five-carat, cushion-cut diamond solitaire for Christmas.. Now, THAT'S squeal-able! :P )
well he squeals like a little girl then. :D ever heard a 10 year old girl squeal? that is what he sounds like. :D
 

Rac80

The Belle of the Ball
couldn't resist!

With him, it's difficult to tell the difference between a squeal and a whine -- seems to fall somewhere inbetween. That would be a squine? ;)



Might not elicit an audible squeal, but guaranteed to get our attention, for sure.. :D

Love the squine! :P yes Diamonds are a girls' best friend:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZtGybjFjOU
 

sgufail

GateFans Noob
I made the thread to talk about why Mallozzi is constantly finding ways (or inventing them) to blame Atlantis fans for the failure of SGU. I speculated that it could be a result of the "unverified) feud between Joe Flanigan and Joseph Mallozzi. You arent aware of the rumblings about that?

Okay, but you have a big picture of JF and the feud featured heavily in your post - I haven't heard anything about it thats why I was asking.

I'm not sure why you are making such a big deal about what you made the thread for, are you saying I can't ask a question about the content of your post because its not the primary reason for the thread? - that sounds like the kind of logic you'd get over at Gayteworld.

In my follow up post I was merely pointing out that you quoted me, indicating a direct response to me but didn't answer my question.
 

SGUBlows

GateFans Noob
Okay, but you have a big picture of JF and the feud featured heavily in your post - I haven't heard anything about it thats why I was asking.
...
In my follow up post I was merely pointing out that you quoted me, indicating a direct response to me but didn't answer my question.
It's probably just that it's sort of old news and he didn't want to go into it again. There is evidence JM dislikes/hates JF. I can't remember all the examples, but in S4 or so JM stopped mentioning JF in his blog and admitted JF asked him to stop posting pics he was taking on set. I think that pissed him off. JM started making references to difficult actors, workplace dramas, etc. In the MGM farewell video JM did, he mentioned all the main cast except for JF. It was very obvious. Then after the show, someone asked him what would be on Sheppard's dog tags, and JM said "I'm Number 1". Sometime in the last 6 months, someone asked JM if JF's criticism of SGU is one reason JM hasn't fought for an SGA movie, and he the way he answered seemed like it was a reason.

There's more examples but that's the idea of it.
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
Well...

Okay, but you have a big picture of JF and the feud featured heavily in your post - I haven't heard anything about it thats why I was asking.

I'm not sure why you are making such a big deal about what you made the thread for, are you saying I can't ask a question about the content of your post because its not the primary reason for the thread? - that sounds like the kind of logic you'd get over at Gayteworld.

In my follow up post I was merely pointing out that you quoted me, indicating a direct response to me but didn't answer my question.

Okay, understood. But there is LOTS of circumstantial evidence that Mallozzi is holding a grudge against JF, and as was mentioned by SGUblows, it has been covered in these forums many times. You asked what my OP had to do with JM vs JF, and my answer was that the purpose of the thread was not to discuss JF vs JM, but to determine why Mallozzi is dumping on Atlantis fans. The issue he has with JF is merely one facet of the whole picture. If you have been following the chain of events following the cancellation of Atlantis, you would know about the various snubs that JM has shown JF in his blogs and there is even a video example on one of these threads. I didnt mean to sound like I was trying to slam you. :). I have answered your question, havent I?

It's probably just that it's sort of old news and he didn't want to go into it again. There is evidence JM dislikes/hates JF. I can't remember all the examples, but in S4 or so JM stopped mentioning JF in his blog and admitted JF asked him to stop posting pics he was taking on set. I think that pissed him off. JM started making references to difficult actors, workplace dramas, etc. In the MGM farewell video JM did, he mentioned all the main cast except for JF. It was very obvious. Then after the show, someone asked him what would be on Sheppard's dog tags, and JM said "I'm Number 1". Sometime in the last 6 months, someone asked JM if JF's criticism of SGU is one reason JM hasn't fought for an SGA movie, and he the way he answered seemed like it was a reason.

There's more examples but that's the idea of it.

BINGO! :)
 
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Robbie_Rocket_Pants

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LMAO "no homo" is older then that. ;)

Injection of life! (Just something that we used to say when I was a kid after somebody got touched by the stiggy, smelly poor kid in school & passed the "germs" on to another kid & made sure it couldn't be passed back by saying "injection of life"............. I always felt a little sorry for the smelly kid.
 
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