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Overmind One

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I don't see how she gets out of this without an assault charge. Such a crime deserves more than just traffic citations and non-criminal punishment.

For me, it isnt so much what she did but how she feels about it. This young woman has serious issues in terms of cognition and perception. She does not see what she did as being wrong at all, just as being inconvenienced. This type of person is hard to redeem. If she gets her license back, and even if she does not hit somebody again, she will still feel the same way about her right to own the road.
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan
So today at a local Walmart, I saw this guy bending to the side to pick up something from a lower shelf. On his waist, he had a holstered revolver. It was untethered and had no safety strap over the handle.

In PA, one can open carry a handgun, but it needs to be clearly visible to all, not even a loose un buttoned shirt can cover any part of it

One needs a permit for concealed carry, Than it must be totally concealed AT ALL TIMES. The owner is charged with ensuring that it never shows even if bending over or stretching up or to the side

I didn't talk to the guy and I could have easily have removed his weapon while he was bent to the side. Not to mention, subdue him by bending back his right arm and than removing the weapon. Jsut about ANYONE could have, and a kid could have gotten the gun fairly easy as well

I am sure this clown is just an attn seeker--its payday today for many ppl and the WM is fairly busy, he knew this-perhaps he was hoping something would happen or be spotted by an employee and 'harassed' so that he could sue.

I found the manager on duty

I asked "If someone came in hear with no shoes or shirt on, or if someone shopped while wearing rollerskates or on a skateboard (all posted on WM's bulleting board as customer no-no's) what would you do?
MNGR-
"I would ask them to leave"
me= "WHY?"
mngr= "Because it is unsafe for customers and against store policy"

me= "So if someone were walking around in your store with a handgun holstered insecurely, what would you do?"

MNGR= "wELL UH, IT IS AGAINST STATE LAW FOR US TO ASK SOMEONE WITH A WEAPON TO LEAVE"

(I checked later with the Sheriff and the State cops. that is bullshit-no such law exists)

me- "well you have a guy walking around here with a handgun holstered unsafely, he probably has a round ready to fire and his irresponsible shopping actions (BECAUSE HE WAS CARRYING) make it very easy for anyone to take his weapon, doesn't that concern you as a threat to other customers?"

MNGR- "There is no company policy on this either way"

me= "yes, but there is common sense, you should at least ask the man; if he has a concealed carry permit than please cover the weapon as is req'd by law. If no permit, than to please completely expose the weapon as per law. If I were in charge, I would ask him to put the weapon in his vehicle and than continue shopping citing his irresponsible behavior. Just like a shopping skateboarder, this man is exposing everyone in here to a great threat--I am a retired soldier and I think I know just a tiny bit about weapon's safety"

the manager said they would find the guy and only act if they could see the weapon

LAME!

Anyone know the number to WM corporate that will get a person? I tried a number from the website and just get recordings and "press this number" menus
 

Gatefan1976

Well Known GateFan
Who are you and what have you done with our pacifist Aussie friend? :confused0076: I'll have you know we here are GateFans don't take the kidnapping and replacement of our members with cybernetic Right wing clones very lightly. Don't make us unleash Patty Hearst on your ass. :icon_mad:
That WAS a pacifist response mate :)
 

Overmind One

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So today at a local Walmart, I saw this guy bending to the side to pick up something from a lower shelf. On his waist, he had a holstered revolver. It was untethered and had no safety strap over the handle.

In PA, one can open carry a handgun, but it needs to be clearly visible to all, not even a loose un buttoned shirt can cover any part of it

One needs a permit for concealed carry, Than it must be totally concealed AT ALL TIMES. The owner is charged with ensuring that it never shows even if bending over or stretching up or to the side

I didn't talk to the guy and I could have easily have removed his weapon while he was bent to the side. Not to mention, subdue him by bending back his right arm and than removing the weapon. Jsut about ANYONE could have, and a kid could have gotten the gun fairly easy as well

I am sure this clown is just an attn seeker--its payday today for many ppl and the WM is fairly busy, he knew this-perhaps he was hoping something would happen or be spotted by an employee and 'harassed' so that he could sue.

I found the manager on duty

I asked "If someone came in hear with no shoes or shirt on, or if someone shopped while wearing rollerskates or on a skateboard (all posted on WM's bulleting board as customer no-no's) what would you do?
MNGR-
"I would ask them to leave"
me= "WHY?"
mngr= "Because it is unsafe for customers and against store policy"

me= "So if someone were walking around in your store with a handgun holstered insecurely, what would you do?"

MNGR= "wELL UH, IT IS AGAINST STATE LAW FOR US TO ASK SOMEONE WITH A WEAPON TO LEAVE"

(I checked later with the Sheriff and the State cops. that is bullshit-no such law exists)

me- "well you have a guy walking around here with a handgun holstered unsafely, he probably has a round ready to fire and his irresponsible shopping actions (BECAUSE HE WAS CARRYING) make it very easy for anyone to take his weapon, doesn't that concern you as a threat to other customers?"

MNGR- "There is no company policy on this either way"

me= "yes, but there is common sense, you should at least ask the man; if he has a concealed carry permit than please cover the weapon as is req'd by law. If no permit, than to please completely expose the weapon as per law. If I were in charge, I would ask him to put the weapon in his vehicle and than continue shopping citing his irresponsible behavior. Just like a shopping skateboarder, this man is exposing everyone in here to a great threat--I am a retired soldier and I think I know just a tiny bit about weapon's safety"

the manager said they would find the guy and only act if they could see the weapon

LAME!

Anyone know the number to WM corporate that will get a person? I tried a number from the website and just get recordings and "press this number" menus

Hate to point it out, but you do live in a (basically) Red state that is big on 2nd Amendment gun "rights", and is only 20% non-white. This is why "open carry" laws exist in your state. States that are more diverse do not have open carry laws, and regular citizens cannot openly carry firearms. I think that such a law (allowing open carry of firearms) is evidence of a fearful populace, wherever it is. It is irresponsible and discomforting.
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan
Hate to point it out, but you do live in a (basically) Red state that is big on 2nd Amendment gun "rights", and is only 20% non-white. This is why "open carry" laws exist in your state. States that are more diverse do not have open carry laws, and regular citizens cannot openly carry firearms. I think that such a law (allowing open carry of firearms) is evidence of a fearful populace, wherever it is. It is irresponsible and discomforting.

Yes and yes....

However, my bigger point and concern is that he was not in compliance with any of the carry rules-the weapon was neither totally concealed as req'd for a concealed carry, nor was it totally visible as req'd for an open carry.

I was also pretty upset with the store MNGR lame ass answer of "state law says we cant keep him out of the store" as being complete and utter bullshit. It is a privately owned store and they can refuse to serve anyone they want (other than for ethnic reasons). I wasn't asking the Mngr to kick the guy out anyhow, just to approach him and ask him to be more cognizant and responsible while he was in the store.

This of course ties in to my other peeve about corporate greed and its influence on an entity and its employees doing the right thing. The real reason the Mngr wouldn't do anything was not because of any law but because of the fear of bringing a possible lawsuit or the loss of customers.

And even though this is PA,--and this goes way back to when I tried to give you a picture of the sensibilities of people in MY PART of the state when I had stated that we were (I think) the only rural county in PA to vote for Obama- look at any election map for the 08 election and you will see my county being the only one in blue that is not a metropolitan county or a county with a large city in it (like Centre with State College)-- This shows that we are atypical of much of rural PA (though not the only ones) and that we do not fit the stereotypes that many ppl have of us. TIED to this is the fact that in this county we are not "gun nuts"--yes ppl hunt and we have a very popular sporting and international air rifle range here, but we have few TEA-ist types or 'rednecks'.

Now go a county or 2 in either direction and this changes.

This guy I saw today is an anomaly for my area. Ppl don't ride around with gun racks in their vehicles or handguns on their hips "just because".
If I was able to find out, my guess is that this guy was either a 'transplant' from elsewhere or likely here for the holiday weekend (besides it being Easter, this is a weekend that many "city folk" use to come up here and get their camps cleaned up and ready for summer as well as it being the first week of Trout season)

The last accidental shooting death we had was with a family from Pittsburgh. At their camp/cabin, while the adults were outside drinking, little 4 yr old Johnny picked up the .357 from the table that was left loaded and manged to fire the weapon straight into his face.

The parents drove to the nearest facility and expected the doctor to be able to reattach the half of head that had been blown off

Same with many aggr assaults and traffic stupidity--normally caused from out of towners driving through or those who think they own the place just because they own a cabin in the hills


And

Since the cities always carry the state for the democratic Pres candidate than they could easily manage to get a bill through the state house to change the carry laws. The amount of legislative weight the cities carry is proportionate to sparsely populated rural counties, so they could easily win it--if they wanted to that is. I believe a bit of research would probably show far more (even more than the bigger population would naturally suggest) concealed carry and handgun ownership permits in the cities and the suburbs about them.
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan
So what do you think this Apple Maps sat photo shows?

They say it is "something" shown swimming below the waters of Loch Ness

Out right naysayers ("aka" closed minded people) say it is a boat wake--problem? No boat

I don't think I believe in any "monster" but I also don't reject out of hand that the possibility of some deep water species living there. Just look at all the ocean dwelling life we have either newly discovered ot found after believing extinct.

Personally, I think it is some species of mammal-like a whale, that has long ago adapted to fresh water, reproducing slowly over time (don't whales usually only have one kid at a time?) so that is why not so many--plus whales are like elephants and live for quite a long while, yes?

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Overmind One

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So what do you think this Apple Maps sat photo shows?

They say it is "something" shown swimming below the waters of Loch Ness

Out right naysayers ("aka" closed minded people) say it is a boat wake--problem? No boat

I don't think I believe in any "monster" but I also don't reject out of hand that the possibility of some deep water species living there. Just look at all the ocean dwelling life we have either newly discovered ot found after believing extinct.

Personally, I think it is some species of mammal-like a whale, that has long ago adapted to fresh water, reproducing slowly over time (don't whales usually only have one kid at a time?) so that is why not so many--plus whales are like elephants and live for quite a long while, yes?

Apple_Maps_Discovers__Loch_Ness-2e6600e94b49e9f1fc492fccd2fd1aa1

Its a big black square. :) Please post the link to the picture and I will fix this for you, or right click, save the picture then upload it here.
 

shavedape

Well Known GateFan
Ah, the irony of it all! :anim_59:

http://www.news9.com/story/25314006/man-seeks-to-hide-murder-tattoo-before-trial

Man seeks to hide 'murder' tattoo before trial

GREAT BEND, Kan. (AP) - A Kansas man charged with first-degree murder is afraid the tattooed mirror-image letters spelling out the word "murder" across his neck might prejudice a jury, so he is asking for a professional tattoo artist to remove or cover it up.

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The Great Bend Tribune (http://bit.ly/1hdCklp ) reports Chapman's trial is scheduled to start Monday in the November 2011 killing of Damon Galliart, whose body was found by hunters in a roadside ditch southwest of Great Bend.

Chapman's attorney says in a motion the tattoo would be extremely prejudicial if seen by a jury.
 

Overmind One

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Staff member
Ah, the irony of it all! :anim_59:

http://www.news9.com/story/25314006/man-seeks-to-hide-murder-tattoo-before-trial

Man seeks to hide 'murder' tattoo before trial

GREAT BEND, Kan. (AP) - A Kansas man charged with first-degree murder is afraid the tattooed mirror-image letters spelling out the word "murder" across his neck might prejudice a jury, so he is asking for a professional tattoo artist to remove or cover it up.

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The Great Bend Tribune (http://bit.ly/1hdCklp ) reports Chapman's trial is scheduled to start Monday in the November 2011 killing of Damon Galliart, whose body was found by hunters in a roadside ditch southwest of Great Bend.

Chapman's attorney says in a motion the tattoo would be extremely prejudicial if seen by a jury.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! He better get that tear removed from his left eye too, since it means he killed at least one person. This guy is going down. :)
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan
Power-mad female cop puts disabled former marine in cuffs-on his property. She got in a tizzy over his use of his VA issued ID card-he said he doesn't drive-- and his standing firm that it a government issued ID when she says it is not. She was called there buy the guy and the neighbor over a dispute with the neighbor over their dogs-an issue she failed to address.

He is lucky he didn't get tased or shot (it has been shown that female cops draw a weapon on a man far more frequently than their male counterparts)

She then confiscated all the cell phones saying that they were "a threat to her safety"

I think she did this for 2 reasons (beyond the female cop issue)
1-The guy is Hispanic
2-The guy is a Vet and she is one of these ppl who buy into the current-in-society underlying theme of "all vets are crazy" false perception

I hope she gets fired and charged with a "hate crime"

 

Overmind One

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Power-mad female cop puts disabled former marine in cuffs-on his property. She got in a tizzy over his use of his VA issued ID card-he said he doesn't drive-- and his standing firm that it a government issued ID when she says it is not. She was called there buy the guy and the neighbor over a dispute with the neighbor over their dogs-an issue she failed to address.

He is lucky he didn't get tased or shot (it has been shown that female cops draw a weapon on a man far more frequently than their male counterparts)

She then confiscated all the cell phones saying that they were "a threat to her safety"

I think she did this for 2 reasons (beyond the female cop issue)
1-The guy is Hispanic
2-The guy is a Vet and she is one of these ppl who buy into the current-in-society underlying theme of "all vets are crazy" false perception

I hope she gets fired and charged with a "hate crime"


WHAAAAAT???? OMG, that female cop is just proof that emotional assessment tests need to be done on cops. She took the phone to "protect her safety"? LOL! I want a follow up on this. :) That guy could have easily disarmed and headlocked that chick in 5 seconds.

EDIT (additional updates):

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...essive-but-the-video-tells-a-different-story/

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2...ones-fails-snatch-third-handcuffs-man-reason/
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan
Well, this author is correct but wrong in his reasons why--the military is a type of socialist system--I would say more of a communitarian one-but not for economic or political reasons. It is for the creation and maintaining of order, discipline and readiness

His examples are easily explained using my reasoning:

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YJ02

Well Known GateFan
WHAAAAAT???? OMG, that female cop is just proof that emotional assessment tests need to be done on cops. She took the phone to "protect her safety"? LOL! I want a follow up on this. :) That guy could have easily disarmed and headlocked that chick in 5 seconds.

EDIT (additional updates):

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...essive-but-the-video-tells-a-different-story/

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2...ones-fails-snatch-third-handcuffs-man-reason/

Her attitude is so indicative of so many cops; arrogant, obnoxious, an insistence in being 'correct; even in the face of obvious evidence to the contrary

an example is her insistence that his VA id card is not a "valid gov't issued ID" shows this. Her only excuse is that she is an idiot who has never heard of the US's dept of veteran's affairs.

It also is concerning that she seems to have an immediate 'dominance/fear' issue upon seeing the guy--1) He is a guy 2) He is hispanic 3) He is a vet (did she know ahead of time? if so, than it brings in other prejudices)

And yes, between the guy, his son and buddy (who I think I read is still in the USMC) they could have subdued," bagged and tagged" her and shipped her to California before anyone knew she was missing

I am sure she will have an excellent "I feared for my life" defense when it comes to it.
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan
You do know that "the blaze" and "blaze tv" are wholly owned and op'd by Glenn Beck, don't you?

Just putting that out there--some ppl totally disregard what is on there just because of that.

I have an email feed that spams me daily-usually with right wing, chaos libertarian stuff, but there is a 'gem' here and there
 

Jim of WVa

Well Known GateFan
Power-mad female cop puts disabled former marine in cuffs-on his property. She got in a tizzy over his use of his VA issued ID card-he said he doesn't drive-- and his standing firm that it a government issued ID when she says it is not. She was called there buy the guy and the neighbor over a dispute with the neighbor over their dogs-an issue she failed to address.

He is lucky he didn't get tased or shot (it has been shown that female cops draw a weapon on a man far more frequently than their male counterparts)

She then confiscated all the cell phones saying that they were "a threat to her safety"
...

Bitches be kwazy!!!
 

YJ02

Well Known GateFan
Watched BATTLESHIP on HBO

what stupidity it was

a shame that the disabled Army Colonel (a real soldier) couldn't have gotten involved in another project-like one of the CPT AMERICA films or something

this movie just build on the stupidity and general ignorance of the military by US citizens

The alien attack thing wasn't bad just everything else

1-The Navy ship first having .50 cal sniper rifles on board and people hwo know how to use them--there were no Marines shown assigned to the ship and I don't believe an AEGIS destroyer class rates them

2-Showing Navy personnel that seemingly are trained well enough on an M4 that they use 2nd nature skills in handling them-like soldiers and marines do and Navy SEALS. Last I checked, no one in Navy basic even touches a weapon. SEALS only first use a weapon in SEAL selection

3- Rihanna character would have never (probably) gotten in with her tat's

4 -Yes, don't you know that decomm'd battleships just sit around as a museum with a trained crew, 16 inch shells and the powder to fire them! Even if they did have powder on board, it wouldn't be any good sitting around for so long.

But like I said, the aliens were cool
 

shavedape

Well Known GateFan
Battleship was so bad I almost turned it off and walked away but stuck through the whole thing for one reason. And that reason sure as hell wasn't for developmentally disabled Taylor Kitsch. ;)

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Rac80

The Belle of the Ball
Been thinking of you ape:
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