David Blue

[Illiterati]

It's just mind-boggling to me how they all seem to be perfectly well aware of how much people seem to dislike the show, but still insist that we're wrong to feel that way.

Shaking my head...

 

[SexyDexy]

Brad's protege

I feel a rant coming on...a big rant. Here goes:

To take a phrase Joe Mallozzi likes to use, David Blue he is making idiot comments. Yes, not idiotic comments, but idiot comments

Why can't he and BJS just learn to shut up? Doesn't he realize in giving such interviews, that he loses respect of fans? Sure, it may not be a huge number of fans, but if you piss enough people off, eventually it could hurt your career. I support actors I respect as people - I don't support actors who I think are complete dicks.

Especially since anyone with two brain cells can see SGU is about to end - he should be being even more careful not to "get on a soapbox" and discuss how he thinks fans should act - OMG.

I think people need to let go of hate and let go of anger and just watch it. If you like it, great, if you don't, you don't -- but just don't hold a grudge, you know?

Been talking to Brad, David? Wake up! Practically NO ONE held a grudge! In fact, Stargate fans are the only ones who suffered through episode after episode of SGU hoping it would get better! Their "loyalty" was gradually eroded into nothingness by this shit show. We all really wanted to like it!! We tried, really, really hard! These accusations that I must not be watching because of some "grudge" just really piss me off.

And now Blue really loses respect points:

I think that's a huge part of it. I hate getting on a soapbox, but that's the one thing I don't get as a fan of sci-fi – don't have hate against a franchise that you've grown to love because then all you're gonna do is hurt the franchise. Why do that? You don't have to watch it, but just don't hurt the franchise.

Yeah, uh, there it is again - bitter fans "hurt" the franchise. Uh, no. All we're doing is not watching...stop making idiot comments, David, please. And again with the SGU's part of the "franchise we've grown to love" crap -- over and over again us "bitter" fans keep saying - why should we support a franchise that isn't the same anymore? SGU is NOT like the franchise we've grown to love. It bears the Stargate name in it's title, but it is devoid of all the things that made me love Stargate (heroes, action, adventure, eye candy, comedy, team bonds, family friendly values). Just plopping the Stargate NAME on a show like SGU doesn't make it a deserving member of the franchise...Sheesh - how dumb IS David Blue?

AND then the really ridiculous part, as PSW pointed out:

They want to hate Brad and Rob, but they started this franchise that everyone's in love with. They created these characters that people love, the stories that people can recite now by heart, and they've been doing it for a long time. They wanted to do something different – they wanted to go in a different direction. You have to let them have that, since it was them who started it.

Everyone's in love with SG-1 and SGA - aka what the Stargate franchise used to be - not what it is turning into. SGU doesn't automatically get loved too, just cuz Stargate is in the name, sorry David.

And "we have to let them have that, since it was them who started it" - uh? Who's smoking what "entitlement" pipe now? Let's forget for a minute that there was a Stargate movie before the TV show (not written by Brad and Rob). Putting that aside, sure, okay, I understand letting them try a new direction, sure. But, I don't have to like it. This is SHOW BUSINESS. Not some weird codependent relationship in which I "owe" Brad and Rob for creating SG-1 and SGA

And now he's spouting pure nonsense:

And I respect them for trying something new, and I think a good amount of people do, but at the end of the day it's like getting mad at your dad for wanting to try a new career. It doesn't really make a lot of sense -- he's still your dad.

WTF? Just, WTF?? This analogy is so wrong, and disturbing, on a few different levels. My dad trying a new career has nothing to do with me, really. Unless I'm still a five year old depending on his income, in which case, it would have some effect on me. But, my dad's career isn't to make me entertainment. His career is for him, not me, and he should do what he wants to make money and feel fulfilled in his life. What is David Blue talking about? Just, LOL. SGU is a TV show! Brad and Rob are PRODUCERS (well, Rob no more but he was) - producers making a PRODUCT, for me to BUY! If they suddenly start turning out CRAP, then I have every right to feel pissed actually, and I also have every right to not buy their crap product!!! It's just like the salt instead of sugar in Coke analogy. If Coke suddenly replaced the sugar with salt in their product, we'd be pissed. "Hey, what happened to Coke? What's this salty shit?" No one would be like: "Well, it's okay. They had a right to make salty coke. Don't hold it against them. After all, they gave us really great Coke since the 1950's. It's only fair for them to go in a new direction." Again, just LOL.

And - it doesn't really make a lot of sense - he's still your dad????????? WTF times five thousand. I don't owe Brad or Rob some "fuzzy feelings" for their contribution to SG-1 and SGA. Look, they used to make a product I enjoyed. So I ponied up cash to see it. Now they make a product I don't like. So I don't pony up cash. Simple as that. In fact, before I found out they were dissing me and calling me immature for liking their past products, I had zero emotional feelings towards the producers. Heck, I'd been a fan for years, seen all the episodes, but, I confess if you'd asked me "what do you think of Brad Wright?" or "what do you think of Joe Mallozzi's writing?" I would have looked at you with a confused expression, and said "who?"

Yeah, I'm one of those people who doesn't pay attention to the credits - unless it's to see the name of an actor I thought was hot so I can go find them on IMDB later . I even watched many of the DVD extras for Stargate without the names of the producers sinking in. Case in point, I'm a big fan of Sanctuary at the moment, but I have no clue what that actress who plays Kate's real name is. Or Tesla's. I only know Amanda, Robin, Chris, and Damien. And it's very unusual I know Damien's name, but I looked it up once after someone said he used to write for Stargate.

So my point with that little tangent is - the producers are not my daddy! I didn't even know who the hell the Stargate producers were until I stumbled upon Joe Mallozzi insulting fans after I started looking online after the premiere of Universe - to see why the show sucked so much! I bet that's a real blow to their egos, huh? That a diehard Stargate fan didn't know their names? Let alone feel warm fuzzy feelings of gratefulness and adoration to them for bringing me Stargate. Seriously.

I could go on, but I have to get some work done. So, rant over.

 

[Fizz]

I feel a rant coming on...a big rant. Here goes:

To take a phrase Joe Mallozzi likes to use, David Blue he is making idiot comments. Yes, not idiotic comments, but idiot comments

Why can't he and BJS just learn to shut up? Doesn't he realize in giving such interviews, that he loses respect of fans? Sure, it may not be a huge number of fans, but if you piss enough people off, eventually it could hurt your career. I support actors I respect as people - I don't support actors who I think are complete dicks.

Especially since anyone with two brain cells can see SGU is about to end - he should be being even more careful not to "get on a soapbox" and discuss how he thinks fans should act - OMG.



Been talking to Brad, David? Wake up! Practically NO ONE held a grudge! In fact, Stargate fans are the only ones who suffered through episode after episode of SGU hoping it would get better! Their "loyalty" was gradually eroded into nothingness by this shit show. We all really wanted to like it!! We tried, really, really hard! These accusations that I must not be watching because of some "grudge" just really piss me off.

And now Blue really loses respect points:



Yeah, uh, there it is again - bitter fans "hurt" the franchise. Uh, no. All we're doing is not watching...stop making idiot comments, David, please. And again with the SGU's part of the "franchise we've grown to love" crap -- over and over again us "bitter" fans keep saying - why should we support a franchise that isn't the same anymore? SGU is NOT like the franchise we've grown to love. It bears the Stargate name in it's title, but it is devoid of all the things that made me love Stargate (heroes, action, adventure, eye candy, comedy, team bonds, family friendly values). Just plopping the Stargate NAME on a show like SGU doesn't make it a deserving member of the franchise...Sheesh - how dumb IS David Blue?

AND then the really ridiculous part, as PSW pointed out:



Everyone's in love with SG-1 and SGA - aka what the Stargate franchise used to be - not what it is turning into. SGU doesn't automatically get loved too, just cuz Stargate is in the name, sorry David.

And "we have to let them have that, since it was them who started it" - uh? Who's smoking what "entitlement" pipe now? Let's forget for a minute that there was a Stargate movie before the TV show (not written by Brad and Rob). Putting that aside, sure, okay, I understand letting them try a new direction, sure. But, I don't have to like it. This is SHOW BUSINESS. Not some weird codependent relationship in which I "owe" Brad and Rob for creating SG-1 and SGA

And now he's spouting pure nonsense:



WTF? Just, WTF?? This analogy is so wrong, and disturbing, on a few different levels. My dad trying a new career has nothing to do with me, really. Unless I'm still a five year old depending on his income, in which case, it would have some effect on me. But, my dad's career isn't to make me entertainment. His career is for him, not me, and he should do what he wants to make money and feel fulfilled in his life. What is David Blue talking about? Just, LOL. SGU is a TV show! Brad and Rob are PRODUCERS (well, Rob no more but he was) - producers making a PRODUCT, for me to BUY! If they suddenly start turning out CRAP, then I have every right to feel pissed actually, and I also have every right to not buy their crap product!!! It's just like the salt instead of sugar in Coke analogy. If Coke suddenly replaced the sugar with salt in their product, we'd be pissed. "Hey, what happened to Coke? What's this salty shit?" No one would be like: "Well, it's okay. They had a right to make salty coke. Don't hold it against them. After all, they gave us really great Coke since the 1950's. It's only fair for them to go in a new direction." Again, just LOL.

And - it doesn't really make a lot of sense - he's still your dad????????? WTF times five thousand. I don't owe Brad or Rob some "fuzzy feelings" for their contribution to SG-1 and SGA. Look, they used to make a product I enjoyed. So I ponied up cash to see it. Now they make a product I don't like. So I don't pony up cash. Simple as that. In fact, before I found out they were dissing me and calling me immature for liking their past products, I had zero emotional feelings towards the producers. Heck, I'd been a fan for years, seen all the episodes, but, I confess if you'd asked me "what do you think of Brad Wright?" or "what do you think of Joe Mallozzi's writing?" I would have looked at you with a confused expression, and said "who?"

Yeah, I'm one of those people who doesn't pay attention to the credits - unless it's to see the name of an actor I thought was hot so I can go find them on IMDB later . I even watched many of the DVD extras for Stargate without the names of the producers sinking in. Case in point, I'm a big fan of Sanctuary at the moment, but I have no clue what that actress who plays Kate's real name is. Or Tesla's. I only know Amanda, Robin, Chris, and Damien. And it's very unusual I know Damien's name, but I looked it up once after someone said he used to write for Stargate.

So my point with that little tangent is - the producers are not my daddy! I didn't even know who the hell the Stargate producers were until I stumbled upon Joe Mallozzi insulting fans after I started looking online after the premiere of Universe - to see why the show sucked so much! I bet that's a real blow to their egos, huh? That a diehard Stargate fan didn't know their names? Let alone feel warm fuzzy feelings of gratefulness and adoration to them for bringing me Stargate. Seriously.

I could go on, but I have to get some work done. So, rant over.

I don't think I can say it anything better than that so I'm just gonna word it all.

 

[Loheat]

And I do think that as much as people want to hold a grudge against this show because of decisions made about past ('Stargate') shows, or think that we have anything against anyone from the past, which is not true -- you can ask David Hewlett (of 'Stargate Atlantis') who just guest starred this season and who I respected to no end and told him to his face, "Part of the reason I took this job was because of you." They even enjoy the show. Ben Browder (of 'Stargate SG-1') was kind enough to tell me that he's really enjoying 'SGU,' and I think people need to let go of hate and let go of anger and just watch it. If you like it, great, if you don't, you don't -- but just don't hold a grudge, you know?

I agree with this sentiment, and I don't really blame him for buying into what Brad Wright says. Look at it from his eyes, one of the guys who is responsible for you having a job, and since Blue is a fan of Stargate in general, I dont blame him for believing what TPTB say.

 

[Illiterati]

David Blue is desperate to have SOMETHING he's in make it...

He was in Moonlight as a geek vampire...that was cancelled.

He was in Ugly Betty and the bits with his character just kind of petered out and went away...and then Ugly Betty was cancelled. (He got mad about it, too...and posted his mads online)

He wants SOMETHING where he keeps working. I can understand that, and his insistence that we're not giving the show a chance. It's a no-brainer on his part.

Now, that doesn't mean that I'm going to watch the thing. I can't stand it. I find it to be unwatchable.

But David's like true believers anywhere. They'll preach the gospel of whatever it is they believe in, to try to bring in as many followers as possible.

 

[Fizz]

I agree with this sentiment, and I don't really blame him for buying into what Brad Wright says. Look at it from his eyes, one of the guys who is responsible for you having a job, and since Blue is a fan of Stargate in general, I dont blame him for believing what TPTB say.

You know, I do agree with that and I do feel sorry for these actors getting dragged into something that mostly went down before they were hired, but at this point I do feel that I am not holding a grudge against SGU for not being SG-1/SGA or because SGA was cancelled but for how everything has been handled since then, and interviews like this really don't help much with that feeling sad to say.

 

[johnsheppard]

Just found this DB's interview
http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/11/09/david-blue-talks-stargate-universe-season-2-ship-romances-and/

Q: Yeah, it's one of the best sci-fi TV shows right now, but it's still kind of a ratings-challenged show. What's it like working on 'SGU' with the threat of cancelation kind of looming in the background?
DB: Well, you know, I don't think that any of us look at it as a "threat of cancellation," but I do think that a lot of us feel disappointed that the ratings aren't higher. It's hard ... before we got the DVR ratings back we were all, like, surprised, like, "Wow, what happened? I don't really get it." Because, as you said, we were really proud of what we'd done this season and we've got some of our best stuff coming up, you know, and it's kind of disappointing to think that people might not be watching it.

And then we got the DVR ratings and we realized that we jumped, like, 78 percent, and it was kind of like a slap in the face – a reminder that people don't really watch live television as much anymore. If we're not a destination show, then we're very obviously a show that people want to watch and catch up with after, when they can. I respect that. I'm somebody who works so many hours Monday through Friday that on Saturday at 8 in the morning until 8 o'clock at night I'm catching up on all my favorite shows.

I wish and I hope that more people give us a try, because I feel like people who wouldn't expect to like sci-fi or people who didn't think they'd ever watch a 'Stargate' could give it a shot and really get sucked into the show.

And I do think that as much as people want to hold a grudge against this show because of decisions made about past ('Stargate') shows, or think that we have anything against anyone from the past, which is not true -- you can ask David Hewlett (of 'Stargate Atlantis') who just guest starred this season and who I respected to no end and told him to his face, "Part of the reason I took this job was because of you." They even enjoy the show. Ben Browder (of 'Stargate SG-1') was kind enough to tell me that he's really enjoying 'SGU,' and I think people need to let go of hate and let go of anger and just watch it. If you like it, great, if you don't, you don't -- but just don't hold a grudge, you know?

I think that's a huge part of it. I hate getting on a soapbox, but that's the one thing I don't get as a fan of sci-fi – don't have hate against a franchise that you've grown to love because then all you're gonna do is hurt the franchise. Why do that? You don't have to watch it, but just don't hurt the franchise.

Read the entire interview.It's interesting.Obviously I don't share his analysis of sgu as great creative show and I don't understand why he doesn't undestand why the show is not "destination show" in Tuesday night.

 

[MetalFoldingChair]

David Blue is desperate to have SOMETHING he's in make it...

He was in Moonlight as a geek vampire...that was cancelled.

He was in Ugly Betty and the bits with his character just kind of petered out and went away...and then Ugly Betty was cancelled. (He got mad about it, too...and posted his mads online)

He wants SOMETHING where he keeps working. I can understand that, and his insistence that we're not giving the show a chance. It's a no-brainer on his part.

Now, that doesn't mean that I'm going to watch the thing. I can't stand it. I find it to be unwatchable.

But David's like true believers anywhere. They'll preach the gospel of whatever it is they believe in, to try to bring in as many followers as possible.

THIS

The boy is just scared he won't be able to afford Krispy Kreme donuts once he's unemployed.

 

[JaffaKree!]

TPTB want to try something different? Sure, why not. I'm not going to stop them.

But I refuse to be coerced into watching the show, no matter how much they were involved in the previous SG shows that I love.
This whole manipulative, peer-pressure flavoured attempt to talk people into doing something they don't want to do is, frankly, disgusting.

"Just lie back and think of England" doesn't work for me.

 

[johnsheppard]

David blue

I think that's a huge part of it. I hate getting on a soapbox, but that's the one thing I don't get as a fan of sci-fi – don't have hate against a franchise that you've grown to love because then all you're gonna do is hurt the franchise. Why do that? You don't have to watch it, but just don't hurt the franchise.

BTW I think it's more TPTB BW JM who hurt the franchise in first.And It's why weve followed the Franchise since the beginning and we love it we are hurt by the new direction taken by the franchise new direction that has ruined thequality and the reputation.

 

[ComicDiva]

First of all @SexyDexy that was an awesome rant, and I'm right there with you

BUT

I'm gonna cut David Blue some slack. Call me naive but I genuinely think that David Blue is an alright bloke, and I actually like his character on the show. While I can't excuse Brad Wright for his malicious comment about fans "hurting the show", I think in David Blue's case he's going for a softer approach. No, I don't think it's oki to accuse fans of former shows that they're carrying a grudge.

Why would I carry a grudge against a TV show? It's just a TV show. I am disappointed by the fact that SGU is not as entertaining as SG1 or SGA, but I don't carry a grudge in the sense that I think the people making it need to be punished in some way.

The thing is that with David Blue I think it's just something he was "programmed" to say by PR people. He's not as responsible for the direction of the show as the producers. He isn't in the same position of power. He's an actor and we all know actors are taught what to say in interviews. I don't think that interview was genuine. IMO.

That being said, what are the PR people thinking!? Who are they talking to here? What is it that the SGU people think they are going to achieve with comments like these? Now I'm not saying that there aren't people who maybe exaggerate with the SGU negativity, but those individuals are certainly not going to be dissuaded by David Blue asking them to be nice. And people who are more on the fence like me are definitely going to be pissed off by the fact that TPTB simply can't come to terms with the fact that they're making a show people ARE NOT interested in watching. They're shooting themselves in the foot here.

I thought they wanted to expand the fanbase. If they're not able to do that, that is ENTIRELY on them. If you're making the show for new fans, make it any way you want to get those ratings only wait, you're not getting the ratings. Well in that case, shut the **** up about the "bitter" fans, man up and for God sake, if SGU gets cancelled, don't go down like a bunch of cry babies saying that nobody understood you. Own up to your mistakes. Is that so much to ask?

 

[ComicDiva]

David Blue tweeted:

"The amount of misquoting & agenda-advancing misinterpretations people create from interviews is comical. Where do ppl find the energy!? "

From not watching your ******* show, that's where.

This kid is really making it hard for me to stand by my previous post.

 

[Hyndara]

David Hewlett LIKES SGU? He LIKES this crap? I mean David is a good actor but ... he LIKES SGU? So he was lying to the fans at the cons and on Twitter? Wow, maybe DB was dreaming?

Funny PR for himself I think. And, of course, the fat geek will get the beauty and this is soooo realistic! In which reality? But, anybody noticed DB is up to new grounds? I think this time is it when the actors take aware of the more than possible ending of SGU.

 

[PegDIG2004]

And I do think that as much as people want to hold a grudge against this show because of decisions made about past ('Stargate') shows, or think that we have anything against anyone from the past, which is not true -- you can ask David Hewlett (of 'Stargate Atlantis') who just guest starred this season and who I respected to no end and told him to his face, "Part of the reason I took this job was because of you." They even enjoy the show. Ben Browder (of 'Stargate SG-1') was kind enough to tell me that he's really enjoying 'SGU,' and I think people need to let go of hate and let go of anger and just watch it. If you like it, great, if you don't, you don't -- but just don't hold a grudge, you know?


Did he ever stop to think that they might have just been saying nice things so DB wouldn't feel bad? There's no way that they like SGU. :puke:

 

[Nani]

Idiotic, vapid, Hollywood nonsense. He needs to put the donut back in his mouth.

I just can't understand why instead of shutting up & being professional DB & JBS keep regurgitating the same crap that JoMo and BW have been spewing for ages...? Did they get a script or something? Like, shut up aready & go enjoy shooting the last epi of SGEww. It's like they REALLY want to piss people off. :roll:

 

[SexyDexy]

David Blue tweeted:

"The amount of misquoting & agenda-advancing misinterpretations people create from interviews is comical. Where do ppl find the energy!? "

From not watching your ******* show, that's where.

This kid is really making it hard for me to stand by my previous post.

Yeah, I can understand why you wanted to cut him some slack, but I don't cut him any slack. Especially after that tweet. I don't care if dumb PR people are coaching him - some cast members have managed to avoid making dumb comments. He is not one of them, so I have no pity. But then maybe I'm just a callous, unforgiving *****

As to his tweet, does that mean he's been reading this thread? *gasp* Could it be? If so, hi David :shepwave: I dare you to point out where you were "misquoted," LOL.

 

[b-dubya]

"You have to let them have that, since it was them who started it."

Wrong. I hope he's trolling... because if he's not, it means he really doesn't get how the biz works. And he should, seeing how he's been in one cancelled show and guest starred in Ugly Betty. It's all about the product, (fat) baby.

If people don't really get into it when it starts (Moonlight), or love it at first but then changes or pure staleness drive them away (Ugly Betty), the show is as good as gone. None of this 'oh well, they did X or Y, so I must let them have Z'. No, at most that only means that those fans will give it a chance. And if it is a huge pile of shit, you can bet your ass they'll shitcan it. Unless the fans are german and it's a Hoff production. All bets are off in those cases.

 

[MetalFoldingChair]

David Blue tweeted:

"The amount of misquoting & agenda-advancing misinterpretations people create from interviews is comical. Where do ppl find the energy!? "

From not watching your ******* show, that's where.

This kid is really making it hard for me to stand by my previous post.

I agree with you here. He needs to shut his mouth (and his fingers) and just try to blend in with the background. Clearly he's young because he has yet to learn that by acknowledging a ratings problem publicly you only make it worse. If he has half a brain he will shut his yap and accept the imminent cancellation with dignity. BJS on the other hand will, hopefully, cry like a baby.

 

[MetalFoldingChair]

"You have to let them have that, since it was them who started it."

Wrong. I hope he's trolling... because if he's not, it means he really doesn't get how the biz works. And he should, seeing how he's been in one cancelled show and guest starred in Ugly Betty. It's all about the product, (fat) baby.

If people don't really get into it when it starts (Moonlight), or love it at first but then changes or pure staleness drive them away (Ugly Betty), the show is as good as gone. None of this 'oh well, they did X or Y, so I must let them have Z'. No, at most that only means that those fans will give it a chance. And if it is a huge pile of shit, you can bet your ass they'll shitcan it. Unless the fans are german and it's a Hoff production. All bets are off in those cases.

True, very true. Regarding "Ugly Betty", not only had it gone stale but the production budget had to be quite large. The cast was very, very big plus they not only shot the pilot in New York but actually moved the production from Los Angeles to New York for seasons 3 and 4. HUGE money dropped there! I believe the decision to end it was due mostly to the money being spent and not just the staleness of the product. With SGU it's a matter of both, with money being the biggest factor. They aren't getting their return on investment which spells out cancellation. Bye bye SGU!

 

[Will]

We have to let BW & RC do whatever they want with stargate because "they started it"?? Um, that's a different tune than when Devlin (who REALLY "started it") said he wouldn't mind doing a sequel to the original movie and BW responded something like "well Devlin can want to do a sequel all he likes, but it really doesn't matter who started it, MGM own the rights to the franchise now so he can get lost".