World War Z - GateFans Member Review (Paragon Pie)
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Gatefan1976
Well Known GateFan
Any way you wish.Every member gets a shot.
Movies are a bit more expensive over here though dude, the average ticket is around 17 bucks for an adult now.
This is helpful. I think that the adjustment for cost is doable if you guys are winners. The point here is to run a contest where the prize is movies for two at the movie of their choice (non 3D). Perhaps you could PM me some theater chains you guys have and I will adjust the prize winnings accordingly. Do you have Fandango there?
Atlantis
Well Known GateFan
$16 concession and it cost like $19 for Full Fare adult. I think for 3D it's like $22-$24.
I need to know as much as you guys can tell me.
The contest will not pay for concessions or parking or special events or 3D/IMAX. It will also be seasonal I think...you guys are seeing the first seeds of the idea. The money wont be an issue so much as making the rules fair and equal.
Gatefan1976
Well Known GateFan
Don't worry about parking or concessions here dude, we are not that much of a Nazi state with such things. The difference *seems* to be that all the cost is loaded onto the ticket. You can walk into the movies loaded up with mickey D's if you want, and I never buy drinks but take in bottled cokes. As for parking, most places are free for 3 hours.
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Stupid? YES
Cultural, YES.
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What YOU are seeing is typical Aussie resistance to such things, MY movie ticks will be 40 bucks for me and the wife (say 38 after conversion), yet the yanks prize will be around 25 bucks, and that's "not fair"I need to know as much as you guys can tell me.
Stupid? YES
Cultural, YES.
So be it. Whatever it takes to pay for two adult tickets will be covered.
But I need to just verify the cost before arranging for the payout. It will be through Fandango or similar...do you guys have Fandango?
Gatefan1976
Well Known GateFan
from what I can gather, no.
You Could however see if paypal allows for it?
You Could however see if paypal allows for it?
The prize will be tickets and not money, so there should be an online ticket purchasing entity like Fandango in Australia...what is it?
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Nevermind...its www.movietickets.com, and you do have it in Australia.
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The prize is not going to be transferable as money. You can help with this when we write the Contest Rules.
Gatefan1976
Well Known GateFan
Yes, no need for money, I was just thinking of paypal to be a "universal pay system"
YJ02
Well Known GateFan
In the thread I put up about WWZ and its production and post production issues, I commented that just about any piece of trash could be made-if Pitt or a few other actors were in it, people will pay a lot to see it and it will be a hit.
And see now, worldwide, it has made nearly all of its production costs back, I am sure by next weekend they will be in profit.
People will pay to see any golden flaked crap if the "right" actor is in it.
Jim of WVa
Well Known GateFan
Did you hear that there is going to be a sequel?
LOL! So, now movies come in "pair packages".
. They are just SO SURE that these zed movies will be a hit, that they just make em both at the same time. 
I havent seen this movie yet, but I will this weekend.
ParagonPie
Well Known GateFan
Budget $190-200 million
Box office $112 Million ($66 Million USA)
While obviously movies aren't broke/dependent on box office sales any more since they can also recoup their losses on dvd/blu-ray and other digital formats.
They also planned this out as a trilogy, since the end of the movie 'sets it self up' for a potential sequel depending on how well it does overall.
Also since when did being undead suddenly make you super human? Seriously what is it with zombies today and their X-men like mutant powers that allow them to defy physics and leap about?
mzzz
Well Known GateFan
He was a UN investigator, I don't think he actually did much wetwork or Special Forces type stuff. Just investigated things in hot zones. Found it funny when the head science dude accidentally shot himself, lol.The movie starts with action right from the get-go. We go from a calm, regular day to a massive, global outbreak in about 2 minutes.Brad Pitt is a special forces type who used to work for the UN and is asked to come back to help a group infiltrate a zone where they believe they will find patient zero. Pitt is brought back because of his skills and experience in war-torn hell-hole zones, areas where most people wouldn't last the day, the impossible survival guy.
That's all nice and dandy except Pitt's character displays no skills throughout the whole movie. Everything that happens to him and every situation he gets out of is through sheer dumb luck. I saw no special forces guy in his character. This is probably due to the way the movie seemed forced together. He kind of oopses his way through the entire movie.
Despite all that, the movie was enjoyable until we got near the end. It then became all philosophical, about people helping each other, blah blah blah and the end felt reminiscent of "I Am Legend", the alternate ending.
Parts of the movie felt more like 28 Days Later than just another zombie movie but these moments were not sustained consistently.
There is hardly any real survival going on. We never get to experience how apocalyptic this event truly is because we're moving around too much mission-style. Sure, they show whole cities overtaken by hoards of mindless zombies but we're never really on the ground witnessing that despair, never immersed in the insurmountable event taking place around them. Instead, we're treated to a whole lot of CGI and a set of events that feels like stuff is just happening.
If you want some mindless fun and don't mind walking out about 20 minutes before the movie ends to avoid feeling disappointed by an ending that felt like they just ran out of money and ideas, then it's worth the trip for the matinee price. Otherwise, save your bucks and wait for it to hit your TV.
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I should have gone to see Man of Angst. Maybe Monday.
They kinda took out the whole zombie aspect, besides the coming back to 'life' aspect. They treated the zombies as more like some kind of Darwinian cancer or virus made flesh. They would only affect healthy humans, and not weak ones.
I did like that the humans banded together and actually set out to try and control the situation and investigate into. I loved that aspect of it. But mostly cause I hate the Walking Dead, where they don't ever do that. Instead they bicker like they're a daytime soap.
Another thing that bugged me was how the infection seemed to be solely spread by bites. I mean, are they like vampires or something? Cause it wasn't blood or anything, was weird. lol North Korea had everyone remove their teeth.
lol, Israel was weird. Apparently, they've been aware of the whole thing long before anyone and were in control of the situation for the most part. But they didn't figure out that loud noises attract them? wtf, why'd they set up all those large microphones? Stupid. Couldn't listen well enough to some of the dialogue about the head dude going on about some experiment or something?
End was a bit too tidy and felt rushed. Hope they amp up the sci-fi factor, cause I did like that aspect of it, that they actually try to figure out things in a science-y way but mostly cause I'm sick of just survival zombie stuff and the atrocious zombie soap that is the walking dead.
Bluce Ree
Tech Admin / Council Member
I agree but his skills and experience were implied when his ex-boss said the reason for bringing him back is because of his experience in navigating and surviving hell holes.
I was honestly expecting something more along the lines of Dawn of the Dead, but more intelligent and a better story, with regards to progression, story telling, watching them trying to survive, some humans banding to collaborate while others do not rather than rushing from scene to scene oopsing his way through the whole movie.
Hearing more about the book, though, it would have been a far better movie if they stuck close to the original storyline. They could have condensed the events of the book to fit into screen time if done correctly. Too bad.
YJ02
Well Known GateFan
While I have not read the book-after reading several rants from the book's fans about how the movie-per the trailer-looked nothing like the book, I decided to find some "Cliff notes" type stuff on it to get a jist of the book.
The book is apparently a memoir-an "after action review" of what happened and what the world did to overcome the zombies. Apparently conventional wars between healthy nations also happens.
I agree, the movie and the book appear to have little in common. Some of the major parts-like the Israelis and their wall are used differently with different motivations between film and book.
Also, the book has the entire population of N Korea disappearing. It is found out later that they all went underground into the nations vast tunnel network. Do the North Koreans do this in the film as well or is it just the teeth thing (Reminds me how some nations exterminated their pig populations during the swine flu epidemic a few yrs back)?
I always thought the "infection by bite" 'requirement' is a dumb one in zombiedom. If it is an infectious disease then I am sure it would spread in more ways then body fluid through a bite.
ParagonPie
Well Known GateFan
While I have read the book also, the help in matters Youngjin is that it wasn't just the spread by bite means. The illegal organ trade was also a factor in the plague spreading around the world, which caught the nations of the world off guard to where the source was. Also its the transfer of any infectious tissue can will cause the infection (there is a part were a soldier shot a zombie that was on the general and the dieseased tissue went into the wound since the round went through both of them.) so getting it in your mouth, eye as long as it enters the body somehow (unsure about skin contact though).
Also people fleeing certain zones over the boarders so vast numbers of (refugees) people went unchecked. Couple that with it takes days for a person to fall ill then reanimate.
Keep in mind is that in the book, it took several years for things to really kick off (as the book calls this event, the great panic).
From the book's stand point it was about how we (as a whole) kept putting the threat off until it was too late. Despite it being a quick read and from a book stand point it is alright but when you look at the level of research that went into all of it (from the reactions of the countries) it ties in well to a plausible way of how the zombie plague nearly wiped us all out. However it also shows the human ingenuity in the face of dire situations and how we overcame from being on the brink to a steady victory though the threat still remains.
I could go into it more but I'll just be copying out what the book tells
Also people fleeing certain zones over the boarders so vast numbers of (refugees) people went unchecked. Couple that with it takes days for a person to fall ill then reanimate.
Keep in mind is that in the book, it took several years for things to really kick off (as the book calls this event, the great panic).
From the book's stand point it was about how we (as a whole) kept putting the threat off until it was too late. Despite it being a quick read and from a book stand point it is alright but when you look at the level of research that went into all of it (from the reactions of the countries) it ties in well to a plausible way of how the zombie plague nearly wiped us all out. However it also shows the human ingenuity in the face of dire situations and how we overcame from being on the brink to a steady victory though the threat still remains.
I could go into it more but I'll just be copying out what the book tells
mzzz
Well Known GateFan
Ahh, it seemed vampiric in the movie cause of that one scene where Brad Pitt got some blood on himself and quickly stood over the ledge and started counting in case he started to turn so he'd fall off, but he didn't turn. These new zombies seem more a mix of vampire and zombie than just zombies.
Yeah, movie seemed to also indicate something's been happening in the world prior to it starting in Philly? or wherever the guy started out. Israel, N. Korea, etc. I wonder what they could even do in the next movie, was there a book after World War Z? The zombies adapt?
You watched the movie Paragon? Would be nice if you gave a compare/contrast with the book if you do see it.
Yeah, movie seemed to also indicate something's been happening in the world prior to it starting in Philly? or wherever the guy started out. Israel, N. Korea, etc. I wonder what they could even do in the next movie, was there a book after World War Z? The zombies adapt?
You watched the movie Paragon? Would be nice if you gave a compare/contrast with the book if you do see it.