World War Z - GateFans Member Review (Paragon Pie)

Bluce Ree

Tech Admin / Council Member
So here is the inevitable compare/contrast of book to movie.

I will always admit that taken anything from the page to the screen (being either movie or TV) there will always be something lost, however in that they do have the advantage of telling a story within this universe that has been established. Sadly this rarely happens. Anyway!

The first issue is one of speed. In the book it too many years for the zombie threat to become known to the general public, since the plague originated in China, the Chinese government had to mobilize its armed forces but had to create a false impression as to why (masking their general health and safety sweeps to nearly invading Thailand). Intelligence was a huge factor and even with the processing power of the NSA or CIA combined there was too much going on in the world for people to take notice let alone take seriously of the threat that was building.

The Movie on the other hand takes a Dawn of the Dead 2004 approach where everything happens way to quickly, there is very little time to react to the threat which does mimic some form of tension but it makes the objective of the main character obsolete within the first 10 minutes. The idea of finding patient zero is unreachable from the get go, since there is a huge mass and you don't know any method detection without a huge selection of medical means, which they clearly do not have. Brad Pitt is only really the leader or has relevance because of default, such as the plot demands it to people accidentally killing themselves.

Side note. Basically this movie is huge on the contrivance or as I call it, the God hand. The scene in the beginning shows the directors incompetence in the matter of going from scene A to scene B, there was no need to the garbage truck to literally appear out of now where (like God placed it down and said, now Brad Pitt you can progress in the story!) to the Soldiers who didn't instantly blow his bloody brains out when he charged a military check point (seriously in that situation he would of been dead, the soldiers went weapons free).
PS the Israel part was full retard. Full. Bloody. Retard.

The zombies. Now this isn't a case of slow versus fast but again on what the book did to the movie.
In the book the zombies were slow 'shambler' types, the virus or whatever infecting them was an unknown type, the media in the book (from the government and other sources) to mask the truth state that it is a new strain of rabies and a drug was developed (specifically for rabies) for this giving a false sense of hope and protection. Time from infected to reanimated took several days.

Now the movie sort of declares this is a form of rabies. Again it shows how they didn't clearly read through the book, they just cherry picked words and discarded the rest. The incubation period went from a literal twelve seconds (there was even a timer) to "Oh wait it can take several days" it is mind blowing how even in their own fantasy world they can't keep consistency.

How we succeed.
In the book it is matter of us coming to terms with the threat and nearly losing it all, its only through human ingenuity (The Redekar plan) and determination do we succeed in gaining victories against the zombies. The issue raised is in how we fight wars, all of our gear and technology is opposed to fighting one threat, humans when faced with a zombie (en mass) most of that is redundant. The battle of Yonkers shows how both unprepared the US Military was but also in the nature of soldiers training (aiming for center mass) coupled with stupid higher up command decisions.

The movie doesn't take anything of this sense, instead it simply has a David 'I'm a retard' Lindelof type endings in which he clearly doesn't understand anything of subject matter viruses or even basic high school genetics/biology.


So overall (though this is a condensed version) the movie as said before is an in name only, the fact that this planned out as a trilogy is laughable at best. If you remove the title, the incompetence of the director and the utter dire dialogue and wooden acting you can (after several drinks and a night out with Bruce dressed as a pokemon) see this as a 'what if the rage virus escaped England and infected the world' sort of thing. Rated PG-13.
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shavedape

Well Known GateFan
Nope. All the talk about the re-shooting of a huge chunk of the movie has me gun shy (not that I'd go to a theater anyway). I'll wait for your review and then I'll get it on Netflix later on.

I'm sure you'll give us an honest review, which I'm looking forward to. :beckett_new049:
 

Bluce Ree

Tech Admin / Council Member
Nope. All the talk about the re-shooting of a huge chunk of the movie has me gun shy (not that I'd go to a theater anyway). I'll wait for your review and then I'll get it on Netflix later on.

I'm sure you'll give us an honest review, which I'm looking forward to. :beckett_new049:

I wanted to give an honest review of The Dark Knight Rusts but it was just too full of shit. So much shit. Shit everywhere. All I could see for miles and hours after that was shit. I woke up in the middle of the night from a shit nightmare where I was running from shit monsters who were after me to feed me baked shit, shooting at me with shit canons as I made my way through a shit forest full of ferocious beasts flinging shit at me.
 

shavedape

Well Known GateFan
I'd love to see a good zombie movie so I'm hoping this one works out. The previews don't thrill me though and all that re-shooting they had to do sounds sketchy. I'm hoping that means they managed to fix the ending.
 

ParagonPie

Well Known GateFan
They turned a world wide view from multiple angles, political, economics, military, culture and how it is affected by the outbreak of a zombie plague into. Brad Pitt tries to save the world. The idea of them looking for a cure is laughable, the whole point of the zombie outbreak is that there is no cure (have to mention its one my cardinal rules of the zombie mythos, no cures). Also its PG13, really? Once again we're in the area of Will Smith's "I am Legend"

Also why call it World War Z if you aren't using any of the material from the book? Might as well call it, Brad Pitt's mid life crisis, so rather than buying a motor bike he decides to do an action movie starring himself.
 

shavedape

Well Known GateFan
They turned a world wide view from multiple angles, political, economics, military, culture and how it is affected by the outbreak of a zombie plague into. Brad Pitt tries to save the world. The idea of them looking for a cure is laughable, the whole point of the zombie outbreak is that there is no cure (have to mention its one my cardinal rules of the zombie mythos, no cures). Also its PG13, really? Once again we're in the area of Will Smith's "I am Legend"

Also why call it World War Z if you aren't using any of the material from the book? Might as well call it, Brad Pitt's mid life crisis, so rather than buying a motor bike he decides to do an action movie starring himself.


It just cynically smacks of jumping on the zombie bandwagon. From all reports it's nothing like the book plus it had to be re-shot a fair amount, so I'm thinking they just cobbled something together and tacked the books title on.

Looking forward to what Bluce has to say about it.
 

Bluce Ree

Tech Admin / Council Member
They turned a world wide view from multiple angles, political, economics, military, culture and how it is affected by the outbreak of a zombie plague into. Brad Pitt tries to save the world. The idea of them looking for a cure is laughable, the whole point of the zombie outbreak is that there is no cure (have to mention its one my cardinal rules of the zombie mythos, no cures). Also its PG13, really? Once again we're in the area of Will Smith's "I am Legend"

Also why call it World War Z if you aren't using any of the material from the book? Might as well call it, Brad Pitt's mid life crisis, so rather than buying a motor bike he decides to do an action movie starring himself.

Just finished. They weren't looking for a cure, just a means to stop the outbreak or defeat it somehow. I'll post a short review in a bit but "I am legend" was a pretty close analogy when considering the movie toward the end, not throughout though.


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ParagonPie

Well Known GateFan
I may have mistook the synopsis, since the trailers were suggesting that they find someway to stop this, and since it was a virus that implies a cure of somekind. My mistake

Massive potential spoiler here, giving a huge warning.
However reading this, the 'cure' is people who are terminally ill aren't killed by the zombies, please tell me that isn't freaking true dude
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
Hitting the theater in about an hour to catch this with my wife. Anyone else going to see it?


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Me maybe....:)

Got an idea....monthly GateFans Movie for Two contest:

  • Write a movie review (no less than 300 words), current movies up to 6 months back, science fiction, fantasy, animated or action....only excluding pure drama and romantic comedies and "spring break" type movies. The Members will choose the winner.
  • Vote on the best review
  • The winner gets his/her review promoted to the front page blog, and tickets for two to the movie of their choice (paid through Fandango as a gift).
  • Tickets only, no concessions or parking...
What do you think?

Rules would have to apply for repeat winners, plagiarizing (my crawlers will bust you, guaranteed!) and there would have to be a membership length/post count minimum. No flyby winners!

At current rates, this is about a $16.00 value. :)
 

Bluce Ree

Tech Admin / Council Member
Me maybe....:)

Got an idea....monthly GateFans Movie for Two contest:

  • Write a movie review (no less than 300 words), current movies up to 6 months back, science fiction, fantasy, animated or action....only excluding pure drama and romantic comedies and "spring break" type movies. The Members will choose the winner.
  • Vote on the best review
  • The winner gets his/her review promoted to the front page blog, and tickets for two to the movie of their choice (paid through Fandango as a gift).
  • Tickets only, no concessions or parking...
What do you think?

Rules would have to apply for repeat winners, plagiarizing (my crawlers will bust you, guaranteed!) and there would have to be a membership length/post count minimum. No flyby winners!
At current rates, this is about a $16.00 value. :)


I like!
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member


Why not? I can afford it. :) Why not spread the love and grow the site at the same time? :)
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The key here will be writing the contest rules. I will have a lawyer friend review them before the contest begins. :) I have already checked out the Fandango thing, and it allows me to gift tickets to people without them ever having to give up personal information except an email address (which they will have because they joined here using it). This should be a Council project, no?
 

Bluce Ree

Tech Admin / Council Member
Why not? I can afford it. :) Why not spread the love and grow the site at the same time? :)
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The key here will be writing the contest rules. I will have a lawyer friend review them before the contest begins. :) I have already checked out the Fandango thing, and it allows me to gift tickets to people without them ever having to give up personal information except an email address (which they will have because they joined here using it). This should be a Council project, no?

I'll pitch in on these things with you, bro. You and I will be exempt from these giveaways.
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
I'll pitch in on these things with you, bro. You and I will be exempt from these giveaways.

Of course. :) But the non-contributing (financially) Council will be eligible? That would be okay with me. The vote would eliminate consecutive winners.
 

Bluce Ree

Tech Admin / Council Member
The movie starts with action right from the get-go. We go from a calm, regular day to a massive, global outbreak in about 2 minutes. :McKayrolleyes: Brad Pitt is a special forces type who used to work for the UN and is asked to come back to help a group infiltrate a zone where they believe they will find patient zero. Pitt is brought back because of his skills and experience in war-torn hell-hole zones, areas where most people wouldn't last the day, the impossible survival guy.

That's all nice and dandy except Pitt's character displays no skills throughout the whole movie. Everything that happens to him and every situation he gets out of is through sheer dumb luck. I saw no special forces guy in his character. This is probably due to the way the movie seemed forced together. He kind of oopses his way through the entire movie.

Despite all that, the movie was enjoyable until we got near the end. It then became all philosophical, about people helping each other, blah blah blah and the end felt reminiscent of "I Am Legend", the alternate ending.

Parts of the movie felt more like 28 Days Later than just another zombie movie but these moments were not sustained consistently.

There is hardly any real survival going on. We never get to experience how apocalyptic this event truly is because we're moving around too much mission-style. Sure, they show whole cities overtaken by hoards of mindless zombies but we're never really on the ground witnessing that despair, never immersed in the insurmountable event taking place around them. Instead, we're treated to a whole lot of CGI and a set of events that feels like stuff is just happening.

If you want some mindless fun and don't mind walking out about 20 minutes before the movie ends to avoid feeling disappointed by an ending that felt like they just ran out of money and ideas, then it's worth the trip for the matinee price. Otherwise, save your bucks and wait for it to hit your TV.


A few details:
The zombies are deceased. There's no cure to be found. They are looking for patient zero to understand how this outbreak started and what it is so as to prevent further spread of the infection. Once that's deemed impossible, during one scene, Pitt notices that certain people are simply ignored by the hoards of zombies. He comes to the conclusion that those people must be sick and zombies only want healthy subjects to which they can spread the pathogen. This turns out to be true and they develop a vaccine to camouflage people from the zombies and all is well.
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I should have gone to see Man of Angst. Maybe Monday.
 

Joelist

What ship is this?
Staff member
In other words it's pathetic. Oh well.

I guess I was fortunate with "I Am Legend" in that I never saw the theatrical version so my first exposure was with the real (alternate) ending. That makes the whole movie better because the real ending actually flowed logically out of the plot developments earlier. The theatrical ending was crap by comparison as it was not only trite but didn't even fit properly into the rest of the film.
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Me maybe....:)

Got an idea....monthly GateFans Movie for Two contest:

  • Write a movie review (no less than 300 words), current movies up to 6 months back, science fiction, fantasy, animated or action....only excluding pure drama and romantic comedies and "spring break" type movies. The Members will choose the winner.
  • Vote on the best review
  • The winner gets his/her review promoted to the front page blog, and tickets for two to the movie of their choice (paid through Fandango as a gift).
  • Tickets only, no concessions or parking...
What do you think?


Rules would have to apply for repeat winners, plagiarizing (my crawlers will bust you, guaranteed!) and there would have to be a membership length/post count minimum. No flyby winners!

At current rates, this is about a $16.00 value. :)

Not a bad idea.....pity it wasn't running when I wrote my Dredd 2012 review...:icon10:
 

Overmind One

GateFans Gatemaster
Staff member
In other words it's pathetic. Oh well.

I guess I was fortunate with "I Am Legend" in that I never saw the theatrical version so my first exposure was with the real (alternate) ending. That makes the whole movie better because the real ending actually flowed logically out of the plot developments earlier. The theatrical ending was crap by comparison as it was not only trite but didn't even fit properly into the rest of the film.
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Not a bad idea.....pity it wasn't running when I wrote my Dredd 2012 review...:icon10:


You can still participate in the contest. :) So far, only Bluce and I are exempting ourselves because we are going to back the prizes. I see several advantages to the contest for winners and for GateFans:

  • Several reviews will be written each month on current films, adding to the current content of the blog and forums.
  • Movies can pay for themselves by just writing a killer review of it. The Fandango tickets won by the winner pay for the next trip to the theater.
  • New content will hopefully attract new members.
 

Gatefan1976

Well Known GateFan
How are you going to incorporate either Heisen or myself?
 
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