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Tropicana

Council Member
When the pro-SGU people were saying that the show was perfect, and so much better than the "bubble gum" of SG-1 and SGA, I know it was done. They could have instead just spoken about how they loved the drama and the characters and the darkness and shaky cam and so forth...but they always needed to throw in something like "SGU is awesome and dark and cool.....especially compared to SG-1 and SGA." Always framing the show by real Stargate shows. But they couldnt much do that after the season's ratings fell far below those of SG-1 and SGA for any given season.

By the time Gateworld and the squees had deleted/censored/disappeared all the negative commentary and then enhanced the perception of SGU by lying, exaggerating and outright manipulation, the show was done. The pro-SGU folks killed Stargate by apathy and denial. If they were going for the emo crowd, after they hit age 18 they become more normal and throw out the black makeup and lipstick. Ever seen a 25-year old emo?

No closure, nothing. :(
They got what was coming to them. What goes around comes around right? The diehards that are over the top that thinks SGU is TV gold and love moody and depressive shows? Then it's perfect that SGU got cancelled, they can be moody and depressive for the rest of their lives cos of it. They can get angry and start wearing black eyeliners and wearing black clothes listening to angry pure metal rock about hate and death, and they can stew in the house all day long, telling the outside people, how no one understands them and that they are idiots. That it hurts so much to be alive and how it is so unfair how life is one sick game. Thats gone beyond a joke, how one reason for being alive has been cancelled cos no one else shares their pain. No one understands the stress, the loneliness of having to go through struggles, and how SGU highlights the daily battle.

Then they can begin the dark spiral obsession about things that end prematurely and the unfairness, then they start obsessing about dead creatures then, then wanting to end one's life.


I would make a perfect emo cos I know about struggles, how life is unfair. Growing up, I never had birthday parties, I did all the chores in the house, I had to work part time from a young age and managing school at the same time, just so I can get the things I want, cos my parents aren't going to get it for me, I had to work for it. My parents never have nor will say - "Son, I'm proud of you" or "I love you son". My family is as dysfunctional and unloving and distant as one gets, and do you see me getting all emo and loving SGU cos it's dark and moody and depressive like some blanket one can cover himself to shield away from the pain - no, cos watching dark, cyclic depressing things where things just do not get actioned is not healthy, never has and never will.

Yeah gonna disclose something, when I was a teen, I did think about suicide once but realised I'm stronger than that, I may have been all popular with loads of friends at school but to be unrecognised at home is lonely but I'm stronger than that, stronger than my parents and I'm full of love and I don't need SGU to be in my face; cos I see SGU as a rep of that suicidal thought and I'm gonna kick its ass. I'm gonna make sure, I'm there ready everytime someone parades SGU like some sort of trophy, suicide is not a trophy and parading it around is simply pure weakness.

Many people are at the dark place right now and don't have the strength to stand up, I'm sure gonna stand up.
 

Tropicana

Council Member
Yeah a bit.

I'm back to normal again, got my cup of tea, lol. :)


Also, that post got me in definite Buffy mood, yes the show may have some dark elements and dark humour but she kicks ass and to capture her essence is awesome.
 

Gatefan1976

Well Known GateFan
Yeah a bit.

I'm back to normal again, got my cup of tea, lol. :)


Also, that post got me in definite Buffy mood, yes the show may have some dark elements and dark humour but she kicks ass and to capture her essence is awesome.

OK just for you my lad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0ugUgAA42o

Biggest mistake ever made with metal is that it is about giving up. Metal on the whole is about having the goddamn steel to stand up against everything.
(not that i'm biased at all........ :D )
 

Tropicana

Council Member
Classic intro theme, and you are damn right!



This incidental piece (below) was made for the final battle scene in Buffy called, "Final Fight". If my life had background music, this would be it, up to 2:54, after that, that piece should be for my funeral, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBAoTYUZMJo


[video=metacafe;6227446/b722c_ff/]http://www.metacafe.com/watch/6227446/b722c_ff/
 
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Graybrew1

Guest
there is a difference between an sgu fan and a squee...you know that. ;) The squees are the ones that annoy me the most. i can respect a "fan"...but the ones who go overboard are the real "squees". here we seem to have fans and those like me who dislike it. the ones that fawn all over it are too over the top for me! :rolleyes:

Yes , and it is no lie to say that the squees annoy the fans. They make us look bad. I have had heated debates with a few of them. Completely pointless, they are like blind zombies.
 
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Graybrew1

Guest
Some folks are asking why I won't be making any new threads for the rest of the eps. Well there is a couple of reasons, some being real life issues, but one of them was "Seizure". I went to bat for SGU and well got hit by the pitch. With no closure to the show, and an undeveloped series, what is the point of seeing what happens when we know the show is not coming back and won't have closure.

I truly feel the arrogance of the Pro-SGU fans and the producers is what has killed not only the show but possibly the franchise.

Seizure and Hope have definately made me hope for a burn-off. Rip the band off quick. ya know?
 
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Graybrew1

Guest
When the pro-SGU people were saying that the show was perfect, and so much better than the "bubble gum" of SG-1 and SGA, I know it was done. They could have instead just spoken about how they loved the drama and the characters and the darkness and shaky cam and so forth...but they always needed to throw in something like "SGU is awesome and dark and cool.....especially compared to SG-1 and SGA." Always framing the show by real Stargate shows. But they couldnt much do that after the season's ratings fell far below those of SG-1 and SGA for any given season.

By the time Gateworld and the squees had deleted/censored/disappeared all the negative commentary and then enhanced the perception of SGU by lying, exaggerating and outright manipulation, the show was done. The pro-SGU folks killed Stargate by apathy and denial. If they were going for the emo crowd, after they hit age 18 they become more normal and throw out the black makeup and lipstick. Ever seen a 25-year old emo?

No closure, nothing. :(


I don't blame the fans, I blame TPTB. Not all SGU fans are wacko's. Anybody that is raving about last week's ep however, very well might be. LOL
 
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Graybrew1

Guest
People always say they are optimist or pessimist. I consider myself to be neither, I am a Realist. Realistically, SGU has had problems since the beginning , I think that SGU fans that can admit that, are not so annoying to the other shows fans. Realistically , even though SGU had said problems I had hope that they could get better. Realistically now, I can say obviously they are not heading in the right direction, they fixed nothing. Not being a optismist or pessimist , I can't say what the last eps will be, but odds are not looking too good. It is a painful thing to watch, so that is why I wish they would just burn them off.
 

Gatefan1976

Well Known GateFan
I don't think dark, just Real. :icon_e_wink: :D

Yeah sure
Soon enough you'll be traipsing all over the net, explaining to poeople why SGU had problems from the get go and explaining why it was a commercial failure..........
 
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Graybrew1

Guest
Yeah sure
Soon enough you'll be traipsing all over the net, explaining to poeople why SGU had problems from the get go and explaining why it was a commercial failure..........

Never said it was a commercial failure....LOL
 
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Stonelesscutter

Guest
I don't blame the fans, I blame TPTB. Not all SGU fans are wacko's. Anybody that is raving about last week's ep however, very well might be. LOL

Damn!!! And I just gave you green for your previous comment.
For this one I give you red all the way.
Three times over! :mad:
 
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Graybrew1

Guest
Damn!!! And I just gave you green for your previous comment.
For this one I give you red all the way.
Three times over! :mad:

sorry to offend stoneless, but even most regular none squees agree with me on this. Twin Destinies has been the high point this year for SGU.
 
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Stonelesscutter

Guest
sorry to offend stoneless, but even most regular none squees agree with me on this. Twin Destinies has been the high point this year for SGU.

Are you calling me a squee!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
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