It has a name: Star Trek: Into Darkness.

[Gatefan1976]

I disagree.

We hale already seen the massive probes..................

 

[Joelist]

On a more humorous note, Abrams and Lindelof are out there apologizing for Into Darkness:

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-trek-into-darkness-problems/

And Justin Lin has stated that Star Trek Beyond is effectively acting like Into Darkness was never made:

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/12/15/star-trek-beyond-will-politely-ignore-into-darkness



It goes to show what a fiasco Into Darkness was that the director and writer finally felt the need to apologize for it while the director of the next film is simply ignoring it.

 

[Overmind One]

On a more humorous note, Abrams and Lindelof are out there apologizing for Into Darkness:

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-trek-into-darkness-problems/

And Justin Lin has stated that Star Trek Beyond is effectively acting like Into Darkness was never made:

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/12/15/star-trek-beyond-will-politely-ignore-into-darkness



It goes to show what a fiasco Into Darkness was that the director and writer finally felt the need to apologize for it while the director of the next film is simply ignoring it.

Maybe they can get away with ignoring things in Star Wars and other franchises, but you cannot just ignore transwarp beaming or magic tribble blood from a British pale Kahn. What about those Enterprise interiors? Perhaps the ship being destroyed in Star Trek Beyond is promise for a new one with a proper engineering room and interiors? They did not dump the Kirk theme song from the Beastie Boys, and there is a gassed up operational dirtbike in Beyond. Picard's Argo was electric.

 

[Bluce Ree]

Maybe they can get away with ignoring things in Star Wars and other franchises, but you cannot just ignore transwarp beaming or magic tribble blood from a British pale Kahn. What about those Enterprise interiors? Perhaps the ship being destroyed in Star Trek Beyond is promise for a new one with a proper engineering room and interiors? They did not dump the Kirk theme song from the Beastie Boys, and there is a gassed up operational dirtbike in Beyond. Picard's Argo was electric.

They already destroyed it in the last movie. Why not start with a fresh Enterprise in this one?!?

 

[Overmind One]

They already destroyed it in the last movie. Why not start with a fresh Enterprise in this one?!?

That was the other ship that Kahn designed (cant remember the name of it). The Enterprise gets destroyed in this next film. The trailer shows the escape pods landing on that planet where they are. Hopefully the new Enterprise will be much better. Still, they have Kahn to help design it so wtf?

 

[Joelist]

Lin and Pegg probably could not get the studio to sign off on actively writing the crap elements out so ignoring it is as close as they can get.

 

[Bluce Ree]

That was the other ship that Kahn designed (cant remember the name of it). The Enterprise gets destroyed in this next film. The trailer shows the escape pods landing on that planet where they are. Hopefully the new Enterprise will be much better. Still, they have Kahn to help design it so wtf?

Ok, but it did take a massive beating. They could simply have retired it due to extensive damage.

 

[YJ02]

Maybe they can get away with ignoring things in Star Wars and other franchises, but you cannot just ignore transwarp beaming or magic tribble blood from a British pale Kahn. What about those Enterprise interiors? Perhaps the ship being destroyed in Star Trek Beyond is promise for a new one with a proper engineering room and interiors? They did not dump the Kirk theme song from the Beastie Boys, and there is a gassed up operational dirtbike in Beyond. Picard's Argo was electric.

INTO DARKNESS wasn't that bad, just wasn't Trek

I am not A fan of any of these new trek movies, so don't pt me there

but

Kirk wasn't resurrected with magic tribble blood, it was Khan's blood, he is an augment remember?

but that brings up other questions.
when McCoy said he had to have Khan alive-well, no, he didn't. He had 72 other augments at his disposal

and the ENTERPRISE wasn't totally destroyed-they managed to keep it from crashing at the last minute because of Kirk's aligning the warp core

they showed the re-christening of the ENT at the end in the ceremony that had the flyover of what appear to be F-111 fighter bombers( whatever they were,they left exhaust implying they were using jet fuel)

I think they just toss in a tribble or a ref to Mudd just so TPTB's can check the box on the "we did that already in this universe" without actually having to show it

EVERYTHING in this trek-even with it being an alt galaxy or whatever, is jumbled and wrong, misplaced in time or setting. Are not the theoretical alt galaxies/universes supposed to have more order /cohesion with one another then what they show here?

and the look of the engineering room, it looks to me as if they get their inspiration for the look of the "warp pile" from the LHC in switz. not identical,true, but the look overall is quite similar IMO:

just turn this vertical and you pretty much get the ENT's warp core

and the way it looks in the pic you posted of the engine room. the slanted "piles" going into the sides? I have seen that in some other movie/show as being an engine of some type

just can't remember which one(s)

 

[YJ02]

That was the other ship that Kahn designed (cant remember the name of it). The Enterprise gets destroyed in this next film. The trailer shows the escape pods landing on that planet where they are. Hopefully the new Enterprise will be much better. Still, they have Kahn to help design it so wtf?

Dreadnought class, USS Vengeance

Khan only id'd the class and the actual name was just seen on the side of the ship. I don't remember anyone actually saying the name

 

[Joelist]

Maybe they can get away with ignoring things in Star Wars and other franchises, but you cannot just ignore transwarp beaming or magic tribble blood from a British pale Kahn. What about those Enterprise interiors? Perhaps the ship being destroyed in Star Trek Beyond is promise for a new one with a proper engineering room and interiors? They did not dump the Kirk theme song from the Beastie Boys, and there is a gassed up operational dirtbike in Beyond. Picard's Argo was electric.

I was just getting a chuckle out of them having to acknowledge the issues in Into Darkness, and also Lin's response of just ignoring the existence of the film.

 

[Overmind One]

Dreadnought class, USS Vengeance

Khan only id'd the class and the actual name was just seen on the side of the ship. I don't remember anyone actually saying the name

Another JJ invented retcon. There was never a Dreadnought class of ship during the TOS era, or a Kelvin class ship. The Constitution class was the biggest of that time and Enterprise was the flagship.

 

[Joelist]

The Vengeance was laughable.

 

[YJ02]

Another JJ invented retcon. There was never a Dreadnought class of ship during the TOS era, or a Kelvin class ship. The Constitution class was the biggest of that time and Enterprise was the flagship.

so you are agreeing with me overall, that even though its a diff galaxy/universe, things in general should be the same?

Like the look of the Klingons for example?

 

[Bluce Ree]

so you are agreeing with me overall, that even though its a diff galaxy/universe, things in general should be the same?

Like the look of the Klingons for example?

Changing events in the past would not affect alien physiology. I think changing how Klingons look was extremely stupid. In terms of technology, however, that can be influenced by changes in the timeline.

I sometimes think at how different the world would be today if the Roman empire had neither split nor fallen and the world did not become fractured due to religious and cultural differences.

 

[YJ02]

Changing events in the past would not affect alien physiology. I think changing how Klingons look was extremely stupid. In terms of technology, however, that can be influenced by changes in the timeline.

I sometimes think at how different the world would be today if the Roman empire had neither split nor fallen and the world did not become fractured due to religious and cultural differences.

i think the world would be vastly diff.

the romans had their hands on a lot of "tech" that they never used or used to late because the source of it was not a roman one

like the stirrup and the long sword--they adopted neither until nearly the end because these were weapons/items that the barbarian peoples used

they also had access to much of what the ancient greeks had developed/designed/invented by choice not to use them either-like steam power, the mini "steam engines" made were seen as a toy or a entertainer's trick,

just think if they had developed the power of steam, just that one thing, how much would they have done with it

 

[Bluce Ree]

i think the world would be vastly diff.

the romans had their hands on a lot of "tech" that they never used or used to late because the source of it was not a roman one

like the stirrup and the long sword--they adopted neither until nearly the end because these were weapons/items that the barbarian peoples used

they also had access to much of what the ancient greeks had developed/designed/invented by choice not to use them either-like steam power, the mini "steam engines" made were seen as a toy or a entertainer's trick,

just think if they had developed the power of steam, just that one thing, how much would they have done with it

They also had running water. The tech of aqueducts all but disappeared for ages after the empire fell.

 

[shavedape]

SG-1 never had a "Roman" Goa-uld, did it?

They did Egyptian, Chinese and some Nordic god type stuff. But it's surprising that the writers never touched on ancient Rome for a story line at some point.

 

[Gatefan1976]

SG-1 never had a "Roman" Goa-uld, did it?

They did Egyptian, Chinese and some Nordic god type stuff. But it's surprising that the writers never touched on ancient Rome for a story line at some point.

Sure they did, Nerus is Roman based.
They also had Hindu with Kali and Nirrti, Ba'al and Moloc are Phonecian, Ares and Cronus are Greek, there are several celtic/Irish ones, Morrigan, Mannanan mac lir, plus there are more minor ones representing peoples across the world.

 

[Joelist]

Dreadnought class, USS Vengeance

Khan only id'd the class and the actual name was just seen on the side of the ship. I don't remember anyone actually saying the name

Nonsense like this is why I got a chuckle out of Abrams and Lindelof apologizing for Star Trek Into Darkness and also Lin stating they are acting like it was never made in terms of the new film. While they seem to get that they messed up I don't think they really get how badly.

Now if Lindelof could also apologize for Prometheus....

 

[YJ02]

They also had running water. The tech of aqueducts all but disappeared for ages after the empire fell.

they brought running water--particularly fresh running water, to a massive scale. But other cultures did have the same but on a much smaller scale of operation. Like one small city. From the Indus valley and to the Nile and beyond, many long settled peoples had running water and some sort of "toilet" sewerage system of some type and scale.

the ancient-not the classical and newer, Greeks had metal plumbing-most others had clay or wood. The romans and their contemporaries though paid a high price for some of their metal pipes--the lead ones

lead was also used for Roman drinking cups, but only for those of high/ruling class. Gold and Silver did something to the taste of wine and lead did not. it has been theorized that much of the 'madness' or just nutty acts of some rulers like Marc Antony, Tiberius and Gauis 'Caligula' (and many more) came from their heavy use of lead cups