It has a name: Star Trek: Into Darkness.

[Overmind One]

Im not excited. I am a die hard Trek fan, and I have even come to respect Enterprise for what it was, even though I thought it went too far to be slotted in between TOS and TNG. It trampled on canon, but still it looked and felt like Trek. I loved the reboot too. I felt that some things got cheezy like the sound effects, the over use of lens flares and way way too much shiny and sparkly for my taste. But for a long time since the release of the last film, I have been concerned with the direction the next sequel would take. Wading through the fake fan made trailers on YouTube, I found these:

First pictures and some set footage from the film


The official trailer has not been released, according to IMDb. But it looks like we will get Kahn (rumored). Somehow, they are going to get Kahn out of this guy? :



I dunno, I do not see how that can get a believable Kahn out of this guy. Nothing wrong with his looks, but his overall presence is just not there for Kahn, in my opinion. Miscasting? Who knows, it might work. I have not seen any of the effects or heard any of the sounds. But if they have not changed them and things remain somewhat consistent as far as theme music and overall feel, it could be a good film.

Im not excited about it though, surprisingly. I hope it will be great. But it might not be.

 

[Joelist]

Actually I think the Khan rumor died. We know this actor plays the villain but not who the villain is.

As to the film as a whole, I am confident they'll do it right. They got the Trek essence right in 09 and the main cast was perfect in their roles.

 

[SciphonicStranger]

Thank God Nu-Spock is gonna get the shit kicked out of him. He's had that coming....

 

[Overmind One]

Actually I think the Khan rumor died. We know this actor plays the villain but not who the villain is.

As to the film as a whole, I am confident they'll do it right. They got the Trek essence right in 09 and the main cast was perfect in their roles.

Yes, they got the cast PERFECT. Also, for those who love Trek, the basic foundation has gone back to villian vs hero instead of acting as a socio-political mirror like TNG and Voyager and DS9 did. It got back to the simple storyline. That part is great. Its the veering off into flash and explosions at the expense of plausible storytelling that might make me reject it. They are filming it in 3D. Not a good sign for a Trek movie.

 

[mzzz]

Trek should come back to tv. But unlikely, maybe an animated version could make it.

 

[Overmind One]

Trek should come back to tv. But unlikely, maybe an animated version could make it.

I would LOVE to see that happen. It could, since the entire acting cast consists of actors who would benefit from long term work on telivision. But they would have to get this entire cast. They would have to use the same ship as well, and not change it too much. The 3D thing is really bothering me. What level of added entertainment am I going to get...supposed to get...from watching any Trek story in 3D?

 

[lady_maneth]

I'm really looking forward to this movie, I just hope that they tone down the lens flare a bit, especially if they're going 3D.

 

[Overmind One]

I'm really looking forward to this movie, I just hope that they tone down the lens flare a bit, especially if they're going 3D.

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I agree, the lens flares in ST 2009 were extreme to the point of being annoying visually. Not only that, but the chrome and glass and overdone lighting takes away from the story IMO. They changed the ship too much. But hopefully the story carries this next movie well.

 

[Joelist]

The lens flares didn't happen enough to be that big of an issue IMHO. As to the brighter look of the sets, that was intentional as the intention (per Abrams and Orci) was to set an optimistic feel. And since Trek had basically destroyed itself by turning into dark, moody slop I can understand the intent to change that course.

Trek 09 succeeded in many places, and besides getting the cast perfect it was also restoring the correct mood and feel of classic Trek. I wrote a tome on this topic a few months past:

http://www.gatefans.net/gforums/sho...here-No-One-Has-Gone-Before?highlight=nemesis

 

[Joelist]

And, of course, welcome!

 

[Graybrew1]

I cannot wait for this movie. I will make sure to go see this one on the BIG screen.

 

[lady_maneth]

Oh me too, and thanks for the welcome.

 

[Atlantis]

I actually liked Enterprise but just like with Voyager I didn't like how they ended it. It seemed rushed and out of phase to me. I felt the first 1st season was a little slow but that was it. It wasnt a bad show. Looking forward to this hopefully they turn down on the lens flare stuff.

 

[Rac80]

Fianlly more news on the Star Trek '13 front- it seems the villian will be the character of Gary Mitchell from the orig series ep3-

Mitchell (as played by Gary Lockwood of "2001"), Kirk's student, best friend and fellow hell-raiser in Starfleet Academy, was assigned to the Enterprise helm on the original series' 1966 second pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" (the pilot was later broadcast as the third episode of Season 1). In that famous segment, the Enterprise attempts to pass through an energy barrier around the edge of the Milky Way. Energies inside the barrier give Mitchell and psychiatrist Elizabeth Dehner (Sally Kellerman) -- who already have latent psychic abilities -- enormous telepathic and telekinetic powers.

Mitchell becomes a superbeing, almost a god, and as a result begins to see the humans around him as insects that he will either dominate or wipe out. Kirk must eventually decide that he has to kill his friend to save the galaxy.
Doesn't that fit neatly into the plot revealed above for "Star Trek Into Darkness"? Our guess is that Mitchell somehow gets exposed to this energy -- perhaps in the same way -- and is taken back to Earth by the Enterprise, where he rages out of control, kills Kirk's family, and threatens the Federation before heading to a "war-zone world" -- the home, we can assume, of the Klingons, who are reported to be in this movie as well. Will Mitchell use the Klingons as his own personal army against the Federation?

Remember, this "Star Trek" universe is parallel to the original one since it was altered in the first new "Trek" movie four years ago. And although the writers have said that the villain comes from canon, it can be someone who died in the original series since this is a slightly different universe. That's a neat way to get Mitchell into the story without violating the original series' timeline.

Finally, if you need any more proof, here is that now-famous quote from Karl Urban, which he later retracted, about British actor Benedict Cumberbatch, who ended up being cast as the villain: "He's awesome, he's a great addition, and I think his Gary Mitchell is going to be exemplary."

this sounds very interesting to me. the actor picked looks like he would be a beleivable Gary Mitchell. Now who's going to play Dr. Dehner? here's the whole article: http://social.entertainment.msn.com...spx?feat=71129d0a-2328-49b1-9e43-9305f26ac4a0

 

[Overmind One]

Fianlly more news on the Star Trek '13 front- it seems the villian will be the character of Gary Mitchell from the orig series ep3-


this sounds very interesting to me. the actor picked looks like he would be a beleivable Gary Mitchell. Now who's going to play Dr. Dehner? here's the whole article: http://social.entertainment.msn.com...spx?feat=71129d0a-2328-49b1-9e43-9305f26ac4a0

They are going there? COOL! That episode "Where No Man Has Gone Before" is one of my favorite TOS episodes! This one is a different take, but is VERY cool! I hope they do not bring back the Q.

 

[shavedape]

Oooh I'm stoked now! I'm so glad the sequel is not going to be just a rehash of Khan. Can't wait!

 

[Bluce Ree]

No! No! No! Why are we going into an episode filled with magic and unicorns? WTF?!? I don't want to see what spawned the Q character. I want to see real scifi. I dunno. Something epic, like a Borg-level nemesis that's infinitely more advanced, a real threat. I don't wanna see any more "one man threatens the entire universe" type of bullshit.

Episodes like that the Mitchel one were cool in the 60s but it's been done. The idea of a reboot isn't supposed to be one of rehashing old episodes. If that's really what they're doing then I'm seriously disappointed.

 

[Overmind One]

No! No! No! Why are we going into an episode filled with magic and unicorns? WTF?!? I don't want to see what spawned the Q character. I want to see real scifi. I dunno. Something epic, like a Borg-level nemesis that's infinitely more advanced, a real threat. I don't wanna see any more "one man threatens the entire universe" type of bullshit.

Episodes like that the Mitchel one were cool in the 60s but it's been done. The idea of a reboot isn't supposed to be one of rehashing old episodes. If that's really what they're doing then I'm seriously disappointed.

I have never stated it openly, but I HATED THE Q. They were like bringing in Uncle Arthur and Endora into Star Trek.

 

[YJ02]

Yes, they got the cast PERFECT. Also, for those who love Trek, the basic foundation has gone back to villian vs hero instead of acting as a socio-political mirror like TNG and Voyager and DS9 did. It got back to the simple storyline. That part is great. Its the veering off into flash and explosions at the expense of plausible storytelling that might make me reject it. They are filming it in 3D. Not a good sign for a Trek movie.

This is exactly the reason why I did not care for this new Trek. It seems as if the movie was made just for the purpose of being a vehicle for the SFX process. I know ppl who bought the blu ray not because they are trek/sci fi fans, but because they are fans of "gee whiz look at the cool SFX on my big screen"

i didn't like the rushed feeling of the plotline. i know they make mention of some time passing, but for Kirk to go from sto away cadet to ship's captain was a bit stretchy. Also, the introduction of the "classic" characters seemed to be "gratuitous" almost like they didn't really have a place in the plot but TPTB just felt obligated to get them in.

And what is up with the destruction of Vulcan? Don't see how this movie can fit with canon (maybe I missed something a midst the "cyclonic orgy" of SFX?

I know some ppl do not like the heavy inclusion of socio-politico messaging in the plots but it did give a different twist to the shows that other sci fi did not necessarily have (remember ron moore was a writer/producer on TNG, VOY and DS9- he probably got 'encouraged' his work on these to include so much soc-poli stuff in BSG). I thought that the shows had a pretty good balance.

back to this seq. i admit i am typing before watching the vid, but are they trying to "fit" these movies into already established ST canon? Or is this a total "re-do" (that whole re-imagined thing again)?

in your first post , you mentioned ENTERPRISE being 'slotted' in between TOS and TNG, what do you mean exactly? ENTERPRISE is clearly-time line/ canon wise- before TOS.
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didn't like Q either. When TNG first came out with him, I thought maybe they were going to go with him being along the line of "the first ones-the ones who "seeded" the galaxy with their DNA. Didn't go there though and I thought Q was a waste of air time. For him to be in DS9 was complete over kill as well.
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I would LOVE to see that happen. It could, since the entire acting cast consists of actors who would benefit from long term work on telivision. But they would have to get this entire cast. They would have to use the same ship as well, and not change it too much. The 3D thing is really bothering me. What level of added entertainment am I going to get...supposed to get...from watching any Trek story in 3D?

to sell more 3d tv's obviously
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No! No! No! Why are we going into an episode filled with magic and unicorns? WTF?!? I don't want to see what spawned the Q character. I want to see real scifi. I dunno. Something epic, like a Borg-level nemesis that's infinitely more advanced, a real threat. I don't wanna see any more "one man threatens the entire universe" type of bullshit.

Episodes like that the Mitchel one were cool in the 60s but it's been done. The idea of a reboot isn't supposed to be one of rehashing old episodes. If that's really what they're doing then I'm seriously disappointed.

Where is the Q stuff coming from? is he/she/it going to be in this film?

 

[Bluce Ree]

Where is the Q stuff coming from? is he/she/it going to be in this film?

Have you seen "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and the character Mitchel? He was the first omnipotent god-like character in ST.