You say that like it's a bad thing.
I did not get into the new canon that Enterprise tried to introduce. I liked Porthos in the show, and actually since rewatching the show a couple of times since it's cancellation, it had some refreshing stories to tell, even if I could not quite get with the ham-fisted changes they made in the established canon. I like it better than any of the NuTrek movies or ideas.
One day, you will learn young Padawan what sarcasm is, and how to detect it.
Dude, what you do in Ponn Farr, stays in Ponn Farr, M'kay?No, that is icing from my WIN cake on my chin.
Try me
, Hell, I can probably quote the ST "EU" better than you while I am at it. You just find it hard to wrap your noggin around the concept that I can do both.It's a good, catch all phrase for a variety of Scifi shows, learn it, love it, live it.
No real trek fan?
There is no Archer, only PORTHOS!!
If the P***y is green, does that mean it's infected?
I am no ones Chit!!Porn freak, Trek fan, it's all da same chit!
Ask OM..................
Only when he is hipster spock, the beard really gives my 'roids goose bumps...........
Funny, cause that's exactly what you are doing
LOL!!!
You mean, I don't lockstep agree with you?
Yep.
Wipe your chin dude, you are frothing.
I'm not "mostly a Star Wars fan" at all, that's just another bullshit assumption, like every other one you make, to which:
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But it has to be EXPLAINED how that is possible. In Babylon 5, the aliens who could speak English actually learned the language. In Star Trek, we have the Universal Translator and some spoken alien language. There is a clear connection between the function of the Universal Translator and the ability to communicate to alien races. But you can't make up stuff that is just too far out there or it becomes magic. Sorta like seeing a superhero playing basketball with a planet.
Well, one IS needed. If there is not a clear divide between fantasy and science fiction, we are getting fantasy in our scifi. Or worse, fantasy stuff is trying to call itself science fiction. There are melodramas which wore spacesuits thinking they were science fiction as well (like SGU). If you do not clearly say that you want a specific family of media, you will get something generic, and that is exactly what we are getting.
Of course, but many of us out here need more than just "entertaining". How about "Intriguing" or "Encouraging" or "Inspiring"?
Well....these two women (forget who they are) convey two different types of "attractive" (depending on your perspective). I much prefer the one on the right and would probably turn down the one on the left (yes I know who she is). I have a decided preference for the science fiction in Star Trek over the fantasy in Star Wars...UNLESS the story is compelling like it was in the Original Trilogy, and it appears to be going in that direction. Star Trek is aiming for that tree at the end of the road.
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It can be made up and is made up.
the UT is just a plot device. yes, they tried to "explain" it in ENTERPRISE (just one more thing that show was burdened with; "explaining" the handy plot devices the writers used to get through script and production issues. the "invention" of transporters as a way to get someone a great distance came about AFTER the TPTB's original idea-landing the enterprise every time-was seen as too time consuming, and the 2nd idea-using the shuttles didn't work because the models were not built yet. so "voila" "presto magico-el transporto!"
IT WAS NOT inspired by or backed up by ANY science--only the economics of a show's production:
"According to The Making of Star Trek, Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry's original plan did not include transporters, instead calling for characters to land the starship itself. However, this would have required unfeasible and unaffordable sets and model filming, as well as episode running time spent while landing, taking off, etc. The shuttlecraft was the next idea, but when filming began, the full-sized shooting model was not ready. Transporters were devised as a less expensive alternative, achieved by a simple fade-out/fade-in of the subject.[1]"
from wikipedia
the universal translator was a similar "convenience"
Clearly, Roddenberry and/or others could not let stand the notion of having humans and aliens communicating WITHOUT having learned the language(s) or had some translator
having an onboard person to trans for every planet encountered was anti thetical to the whole "explore new worlds" idea
and just having it go unexplained was not something the TPTBs could just let happen
so again-the UT was a prop of convenience-one we see "explained" by Hoshi in ENTERPRISE as a device that "learned" new languages' vocabulary,pronunciation,syntax,etc
but they never truly explained how it did that with languages the computer had no knowledge of in ref to newly encountered races
the same thing happens in many shows where it is just left alone. everyone understands one another and we are just to allow that every alien in the galaxy understands/speaks English with an American dialect!
SG1/SGA did this. they never explained it at all, though a small effort to kind of retcon the english as the off world lingo for the galaxy was attempted. In MOEBIOUS-when they went back in time to ancient Egypt-I dont remember who it was-(Daniel?) was teaching the ancient egyptians english
therefore, they and all others who followed in abduction off world, learned and spoke english
presumably, they also taught the various earth ppls-widely spread, chinese, mongols, celts,etc-english as well--somehow
that is why that "explanation" doesn't work--but I drift
