With all the other social issues which keep the US behind the EU and Canada, National Healthcare was necessary. Funny how it took a personal connection for Scott to become a supporter:
The governor said he gained new perspective after his mother's death last year, calling his decision to support a key provision of the Affordable Care Act a "compassionate, common sense step forward," and not a "white flag of surrender to government-run healthcare."
Kick ... GOAL!
That's what it takes for these idiots who object for no reason at all, a hit close to home where an "oh shit it happened to me" moment changes their minds.
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so the gov flip-flopped like Obama huh? I guess that too is an equal opportunity disorder!
It's not so much the flip-flopping as it is the fact that we come to realize their objections were all about the "just because" factor, meaningless and purely partisan.
Oh, like the libs that screamed bloody murder about Bush's drone strikes and applaud Obama's? (for the record I don't like drones no matter which side is using them
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Obamacare didn't get "pushed through"-- it got crammed down our throats despite the fact that (at the time) 74% of the american people were against it (oh and no one who voted FOR it even read the bill
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)- in a parlimentary system the gov't would have been replaced rapidly.
Your party controlled the House and 47% of the Senate, not Generalissimo Obama with his minions and his dictatorial power granted to him by the Congress in your mind.
In a parliamentary system, the Democrats would have to hold a minority government to get "kicked out". The process is called a non-confidence vote triggered by voting against a proposed budget. However, if the Democrats hold a majority government in a parliamentary system, they can push through anything they wish with no opposition.
Canada finds itself with minority governments in power every so often, which is about the only time you get good government because the ruling government is forced to cooperate with the other parties in order to get the votes they need. However, non-confidence votes triggering an election will usually end up with the minority government gaining seats to form a super majority. That's what happened a few years ago with the feds.
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Wow, just......... wow.....
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I suppose what we have here would be called socialist by some, but, goddamn, I'd rather pay the medicare levy and know that if the shit really hit the fan we would be taken care of and not have to worry about a tens of thousands dollar bill to be saddled with.
See, what happens here is the lobby and their henchmen in Congress know how to manipulate people with words. So, they start some bullshit about "oh the government will decide who lives or dies" and "your tax dollars will pay for someone else's freeloading" and they eat that bullshit up by the bucket, licking their lips and begging for more, not realizing that whether Mr and Mrs Jackass are paying their medical in private premiums or tax dollars it amounts to the same shit, except that it would be far less as a tax burden than it is as an insurance premium. They also are too stupid to realize that insurance boards are the real "death panels" because they actually DO decide whether you get your treatment or not and whether you get the expensive one that works or the cheap one that will cost them less by the time you die, purely driven by profits. And, lastly, your premiums are paying someone else's bills anyway.
That, my friend, is the epitome of stupid in this country.